Why are Decepticons so easily defeated on this show???

Discussion in 'Transformers Robots In Disguise / Prime Discussion' started by YoungPrime, May 7, 2012.

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How do you feel about the writers treatment of Decepticons?

Poll closed May 12, 2012.
  1. It's fair because bad guys all deserve to die....DUH!

    20.9%
  2. The one sided death toll is very unrealistic and disappointing.

    79.1%
  1. YoungPrime

    YoungPrime Well-Known Member

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    -Starscreams a punching bag
    -Soundwave's presence is pointless thus far
    -Vehicons are contractually obligated to die each episode
    -Knock Out and Dreadwing are just dead bots walking.
    -Insecticons went from being Hercules Beatles to Lady bugs

    Now just because this is a "kids show" doesn't mean that kids are all idiots. They observe these issues as well. They're smart enough to know that 5 can not take on an army every single day with out consequences.

    I'd have more respect for this show if the Autobots ranks were deeper and they body count was more evenly shared. But since it's assumed that many Autobots have been killed I'd like to see the Decepticons who did the initial killing because it couldn't have been this current lot who drops like flies.

    Am I right or wrong.
     
  2. Grimlockimus

    Grimlockimus Wot?

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    Because they don't have..THE TOUCH :rock 

    That and the Autobots have plot armor thicker than Grimlock's skull.
     
  3. Nachtsider

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    The producers are the same pair who wrote TF2007 and ROTF, where Decepticons die easily. Go figure.
     
  4. seekerblackout

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    Does not compute.

    Fixed.
     
  5. YoungPrime

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    Soundwaves just sits around and does nothing.

    Any random Vehicon drone could fill in.

    What was the point of him slapping around Arachnid if there's nothing to follow it up with.

    FACT:MECH should not have more screen time then Megatron's most trusted lieutenant.

    Soundwave = Rudy

    The coach wont let him play.
     
  6. General Magnus

    General Magnus Da Custodes of the Emprah

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    Bad guys are supposed to loose. Welcome to kids programing 101.
     
  7. grimmlock

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    Bad guys are not ment to win and if autobots had the legions of bots, I'm sure it would be a bit more even.
     
  8. seekerblackout

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    He doesn't need to fight to be useful. He informed Megatron of Airachnid's betrayal, he got Arcee off the Nemesis, and without him, Megatron would have never gotten out of stasis. That's pretty damn signifigant.
     
  9. YoungPrime

    YoungPrime Well-Known Member

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    It's not what you do but how you do it.

    Reality 101.
     
  10. Nachtsider

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    Sure, bad guys are meant to lose. But you can have them give the good guys a hell of a run for their money before losing, like in TFA.
     
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    Only way that's flawed, the Autobots in TFA aren't soldiers like the TFP ones are.
     
  12. YoungPrime

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    Again any drone could do that and since we would all like to see a more active role out of this show's Soundwave I fail to see why you're defending the lack there of...
     
  13. Crumplezone

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    You're are COMPLETELY missing the point. Soundwave is a communications specialist. His entire role is to be behind lines to observe. He's Megatron's go-to guy for everything. I could agree that he could have more screen time, but that's not really even your argument.
     
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    This so hard. Of course the Autobots are going to win the war, but that doesn't mean they can't lose a few battles along the way.
     
  15. seekerblackout

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    Yeah, that Brawl sure was weak. Only took 30 minutes of gunfire and four Autobots to kill him.

    That's funny from you.
     
  16. Megabattimus

    Megabattimus Same As It Ever Was

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    I don't know about anyone else, but I'd love to see an episode where the Decepticons completely overrun the Autobots and destroy their base, ala Masterforce.
     
  17. Grimlockimus

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    And what would you call Ratchet? Because the two play very similar roles, they're the support for each side, but can just as easily kick some ass when needed.

    Soundwave is by no means a secretary, he's the eyes and ears for everything that goes on, and you've got to admit when it comes to having to fight, he can put down some punishment, he just chooses not too unless it's necessary.
     
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    I think the Decepticon's main problem is their own personality flaws. Megatron is cocky and arrogant, Starscream doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut, Soundwave is lazy, Airachnid gloats too much, Knock-Out is vain and not very good at fighting, Breakdown was headstrong and Dreadwing hasn't had much screentime yet.

    Starscream would have saved himself a lot of trouble if he'd kept his head down, Breakdown wouldn't have died if he hadn't charged in alone and Megatron needs to bring some back-up now and then. Yes, he kicks so much ass it's crazy, but he'd be so much better off bringing an extra guy or two. Not Vehicons, cuz they suck.

    Insecticons generally kick ass (Owning Arcee/Bumblebee, fighting Megs), but they suffer the same problem as Vehicons; the more there are, the more they suck. In realistic terms, those six Insecticons probably would have slaughtered the f*ck out of Optimus and Bee, but they're not allowed to because Optimus and Bee are main good guys.

    Soundwave does his job well; he's never failed an objective yet. Only a Dark-Energon powered Warship managed to defeat him. But he just doesn't go and kick Autobot ass. If he did, the Decepticons would win so hard it's crazy.
     
  19. Transformed

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    Nice poll options:rolleyes:  Did you really want real opinions or what?

    Aside from the obvious--American cartoons always having unbeatable heroes. They almost always have impossible odds stacked against them, but they always prevail--the good guy must always wins. Dare I say that Transformers Prime is a kids show again? I don't think we'll ever see a Saturday morning cartoon in which heroes die left and right while the villain scores nothing, but victory after victory.

    We grow up in a society in which the hero always wins, always does the right things. Children look up to heroes, cheer them on, and does the rest of society--everyone loves heroes, the nice guy/gals.

    While it would be interesting to actually have the bad guy do the unthinkable and win, it's not going to happen in a children's show or many other shows for that matter--people love heroes.

    Had Megatron and Optimus not been portrayed as bad/good guys, but neutral leaders walking a very gray path, I think this show could have gotten away with a equal victories/defeats.
     
  20. Grimlockimus

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    The uneven death toll choice is hilarious to me.

    The Autobots have 6 active units on Earth, who are skilled fighters, some even at Black Ops levels.

    The Decepticons have hundreds if not thousands of troops with less training, and are very much just cannon fodder for the main troops to fire behind.

    One highly trained soldier can take out dozens of inexperienced fighters, so in that sense I think the death count for each side is fine as is.

    Now if the Autobots never got a scratch on them during these fights, then I would say there's a problem, but we've seen each and every one of them on that hospital bed at one point during the show.
     

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