Why all this hate for the Beast

Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by mrgalvaprime, Oct 27, 2011.

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What do you think of the beast

  1. I like it

    20.2%
  2. Its a nice concept but poorly executed

    13.1%
  3. Its a nice story but i think its fugly

    3.6%
  4. I like how it looks but nothing else

    2.4%
  5. It is total crap

    60.7%
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  1. Hot Shot.

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    So, what? You like watching girls being devoured piece by piece?
     
  2. doomboy536

    doomboy536 Universe Onslaught fanboy

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    Holy shit I never knew that. I hate Kiss Players even more now.
     
  3. mrgalvaprime

    mrgalvaprime IDW2019 Stan

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    Okay now i actually hate Kp now that that has all been explained. Kissplayers suck (exept rosanna)
     
  4. The621

    The621 Fuck you, that's why!

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    Damn marks...
     
  5. boxorak

    boxorak Lacking Shelf Space

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    That was the Manga. I think the Anime followed a different, less Legion-involved story.
     
  6. Hot Shot.

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    There wasn't an anime. There was a radio show, but that was still the Legion's motivation.

    Don't defend things you know practically nothing about. Have you even read "The Beast Within"?
     
  7. boxorak

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    Well, I could have sworn that there was another story that involved the Sparkbots traveling through time with humans and Fortress Maximus....
     
  8. Hot Shot.

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    That was either from the manga or the radio show after the Legion were defeated. I don't remember which, since I have no interest in the series after my encounter with those scans I mentioned earlier.

    EDIT: It was the radio show.
     
  9. Autobot Burnout

    Autobot Burnout ...and I'll whisper "No."

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    Are you fucking serious?

    I mean, I knew about all the sexual crap that was in the manga, but that's even more fucked up than I thought!

    And I thought the gratuitous descriptions of violence and human guts being spilled out all over the place in that "Hardwired" book were bad.

    Now I am conflicted about getting a KP Autorooper just to turn into a Reprolabeled Alt. Streetwise, since the Autoroopers suppoedly used Legion tech or whatever and at one point they kind of reverted...yeah...

    But I thought you said...
    I hope this has helped you realize that simply because something looks good on the surface (I.E. your initial opinion about Kiss Players simply because you read an online summary that left out all the really bad parts for the sanity of the reader) doesn't mean the whole package is good. Yes, you may like the Beast's look, and that's okay, but you can't say the whole thing (art and story) is good just because it looks pretty while the actual story is lacking.
     
  10. boxorak

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    Yeah, that IS messed up.

    Quick hypothetical question: Say that a young, naive member of TFW2005 wanted to include Legion, or at the very least, a Legion-esque character in his or her photocomic. Aware of how absolutely despised Kiss Players is, this member wants to portray the thing differently; Removing any trace of the disgusting pervertedness and just making it a brutish minion of the Decepticon cause. If this member actually goes through with this plan, how quickly would they become hated, ostracized, and outright banned by the community?
     
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    Legion is normally known by his wang-tounge, and what Hot Shot. described it shounds like he's only a lot worse for ALL the wrong reasons.

    This hypothetical, young, naive member of TFW2005 would probably be better off not even going NEAR Legion. Nothing good could come from it.
     
  12. Nachtsider

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    I can't speak for the community, but I'd welcome such a redeeming move with open arms.
     
  13. Abrogate

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    It wasn't the Radio Show, it was a manga called "Teletraan 15 Go! Go!" that was drawn by the same guy who drew Kiss Players. It doesn't have the disgusting stuff from Kiss Players and actually has a decent storyline that attempts to wrap up very large G1-based continuity plot holes. It is very silly, however.

    Information Administration Teletraan 15 Go! Go! - Transformers Wiki
     
  14. Nevermore

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    Yeah, the entire second half of Kiss Players, also known as "Kiss Players Position", got rid of most of the creepy sexual stuff at least.
     
  15. Hot Shot.

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    Ah, thanks for clearing that up. I glanced at the wiki and must've been on the wrong page somehow.
     
  16. The621

    The621 Fuck you, that's why!

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    Autobot Burnout:

    It's this typical Marking that marks always engage in that pisses me off.
     
  17. KnightHawkke

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    Don't take this the wrong way, but this isn't a wrestling forum. Most of these folks here probably don't know what "Marks" refers to.

    And besides, if said person wants to make some lemonade well, what does it hurt anyone?
     
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  18. doomboy536

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    I say do it. Just make absolutley no references to Kiss Players or tongues and you should be fine.
     
  19. mrgalvaprime

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    well said
     
  20. mrgalvaprime

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    Well just one kp reference with Rosanna
     
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