Who made them?

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  1. RedWolf

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    Here's my proposition. The Transformer race itself are Von Neumann probes. Self-replicating starships sent to explore and colonize.

    Here's the interesting part. The Allspark is replicating seeder probe/ship meant to create self-replicating machines. Self-replicating machines that are Autonomous Synthetic Life.

    Now in Transformers these self-replicating machines or probes have contradictory nature.

    One are Bracewell probes, these are Von Neumann probes that lie dormant, silently observe, attempt to make contact with alien civilizations. These are the the Autobots.

    The other are Berserkers. Berserkers are probes programmed to exterminate other lifeforms on other planets. Essentially WMD. These are the Decepticons.

    Hence the Primes credo to protect life makes sense also why Jetfire said Decepticons if it were up to them they would destroy the universe.

    So who created the Allspark? I'm thinking another machine race. Who created them? Who knows.
     
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    The Flying Spaghetti Monster created us, dude.

    Kidding. But seriously, I wonder if it's better left a complete mystery. I tend to think so, given the vast level of success the Transformers brand has maintained leaving it as such.

    The Ultimate Guide book's explanation is not totally dissimilar from your idea; the Autobots were originally domestically oriented ware, the Decepticons military. I personally like the idea that Primus was created as a factory planet intended to create non-autonomous helper machines for sale to humanoid races across the galaxy, at which point Primus became sentient and subsequently gave sentience to his "children", the Autobots and Decepticons.
     
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    The AllSpark.
     
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    The creator-god Primus . Always loved the religious/mythical aspects of it
     
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    Yeah, Ive brought that up repeatedly in the past....
     
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    Aerneroth: I like it; it makes the Allspark origin make sense in my mind.
     
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    Apparently everyone else who is responding to this thread.
     
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    i Think Primus Created the allspark, (WHiel the allsaprk created the bots)
     
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    Hasbro and Takara. Duh?
     
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    I think Tyrese's line about the creation of the Transformers is one that needs to be explored. We've got some hints (Allspark is the key, it created the Primes and then all others rose up as a result), but the real question that remains is who created the Allspark?
     
  19. Bryan

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    I know, right?

    Oh, wait, maybe the THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO POST ON THIS TRANSFORMERS WEBSITE. Seriously, dude, the apathetic cool thing is pretty pathetic. If you don't care, then...don't post.

    I don't like the von Neumann idea, just 'cause it presupposes that they were so poorly built that they did a terrible job executing their respective missions and yet were so amazing well built they did all sorts of other amazing things (developed consciousness mostly).
     
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    I'm sorry, pathetic? Are we getting into personal insults here? If so trust me, you REALLY don't want to get me started.

    oh and for the record,

    Jim Shooter and Dennis O'Neil

    http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/306854-how-hatchlings-created-born.html
    http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/289691-hatchlings.html
    http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/245398-your-guess-who-created-cube.html
    http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/244797-how-optimus-prime-born.html
    http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/trans...on/152295-what-made-autobots-im-confused.html
    Etc etc ad nausium


    Just tired of a new "creation" thread every week. Slow news week I suppose.
     

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