Which do you prefer????

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  1. Darth Rodimus

    Darth Rodimus Well-Known Member

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    Ive been wondering, which would be better for Hasbro/Takara do

    Jazz or Smokescreen
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    Wheeljack or Red Alert

    of course Jazz and Wheeljack could be completely new molds but, Hasbro love to do repaints/remolds, just change the heads and paint scheme.
     
  2. Nemesis_Prime22

    Nemesis_Prime22 Dark Emperor

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    Jazz over Smokescreen
    Red Alert ofver Wheeljack
    (There is Energon Downshift, which is what i used for Classics Wheeljack)
     
  3. Optimus Sledge

    Optimus Sledge Yar har fiddle di dee

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    Assuming you're talking about them using existing molds, I'd like to see Smokescreen from Universe Prowl and Red Alert from Uni Sunstreaker. Jazz and Wheeljack I'd prefer to see get their own molds.
     
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    Nemesis_Prime22 Dark Emperor

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    I dont see where he says hes talking about repaints...
     
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    jazz and wheeljack...new molds
     
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    Optimus Sledge Yar har fiddle di dee

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    I wasn't entirely sure what he meant by this bit: "of course Jazz and Wheeljack could be completely new molds but, Hasbro love to do repaints/remolds, just change the heads and paint scheme."

    If we're talking new molds, I want to see Jazz and Wheeljack.
     
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    Nemesis_Prime22 Dark Emperor

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    I see no need for a new Wheeljack, but I guess it would make sence... I jsut think Energon Downshift makes a perfect Classics Wheeljack... but thats me.
     
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    Smokescreen as a repaint/mild retool of Prowl, Jazz should be a new mold. Three (Prowl, Bluestreak, and Smokescreen) uses of the mold are enough for one line, Seekers excepted!

    Wheeljack as a new mold, I'm trying to think of a suitable update for the 037 though. Red Alert as a repaint of Sideswipe.
     
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    Jazz and Wheeljack
     
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    I agree. Size-wise he fits right in and both his vehicle and bot-mode are so G1, I'm surprised that they didn't just go ahead and call him that.
     
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    Optimus Sledge Yar har fiddle di dee

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    Well, if you can point me to where Energon Downshift is selling MISB for the price of a new Deluxe, I might go along with that idea. ;)  Although I'm not a fan of the energon weapons, so I'd really like to see a new mold.
     
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    ninety NERDS!!

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    That Sir, is fighting talk :duel 

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    I can't really pick between them. Make Red Alert and Smokescreen normal releases as repaints/retools, give Jazz a new mold, and then either give Wheeljack a new mold, or retool/repaint Sunstreaker and put him into a 2-pack with a Rainmaker or Sunstorm. Energon Downshift is NOT a good supplement for a Classics Wheeljack, imo. To put it simply, this is my opinion of the mold: Energon Downshift=POFS.
     
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    POFS?
     
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    Smokescreen since we already have the mold for it (silverstreak).
    And Red Alert for ease of just recoloring no retooling (Sideswipe).

    Wheeljack and Jazz should get their own molds. But I can see the ease in wheel jack as a retool. Personally with their trend, I'd say do all 3 of those, and save Jazz for later with a new mold. Botcon exclusive Wheeljack and Jazz wouldn't bother me either, since they'd be retools, and hasbro could still new molds of them later. I just hope we don't get a repeat of the previous botcon classics fiasco. Though smokescreen can get around that by going alternators paint app, or original.

    Energon Downshift has a great great great head, and paint app. But yeah he looks out of place in classics, especially with his powerlinx ability and no shoulder canon. If they can't do a new mold of him, I'd accept a sunstreaker retool. So it'd be 2 of Sunstreaker, and 2 of sideswipe, then 3 of prowl/silverstreak. Jazz should get a new mold so they can do Ricochet as well, and that gives him his 2, and while we're at it, give Ironhide his 3 as well, Ironhide, Ratchet, and Ironhide in blue as skids. And if they really wanted to milk these molds once more(past those givens), I wouldn't be against buying them in decepticon paint apps similiar to how Alts were done with Stunticons. (Deadend, etc. Really hoping that's what the classics botcon set will be this time, with more scout minibots like brawn from overhaul, Storm Surge into seaspray, hardtop into beechcomber and clocker into windcharger. )

    POFS = Piece of bleeping bleep
     
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    WHeeljack would make a good Botcon exclusive...
     
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    piece of baby-making excrement
     
  18. Ravenxl7

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    Yep, I would have typed it out, but, it's not worth the trouble.

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    No, No. Make him a Target exclusive if need be, but keep Botcon Exclusives to those characters that are possible with the molds we have, but wouldn't make any sense for a mass release. Wheeljack is worthy of a mass release, maybe even a completely new mold. (I'd post an animated picture of Brian hitting Peter with a rolled up newspaper, but I unfortunately haven't found one yet, and can't make one of my own).
     
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    ...Oh.
     
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    wheeljack & jazz if new molds. smokescreen and red alert could use the existing molds. as for downshift a substitute for wheeljack, he does look like wheeljack but not g1 accurate. and being a g1 fan i think we should get a new mold for him.
     

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