Which comes first: character or toy?

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  1. Brave Magnus

    Brave Magnus Hecho en Argentina

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    Well, while watching ROTF some time ago, a question came out from the most unexpected source: my a-hole brother. I have a perfect good reason to call him that way but lets no go there now.
    Anyway, we were watching ROTf and he asked me how the whole making character works: do the hasbro people gather first and make the toy and then ask the animators to draw the character just like they ask or the animators draw the characters so they can be used as toys? Or both animation/film studio and Hasbro gather to decide how the character will look, transform and everything?
    To be honest i am quite curious too. ^^
     
  2. Covenant

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    Movie designers under direction of Bay first, as far as the film designs go. Bay's said this, ILM, and designers from Hasbro.
     
  3. Chris McFeely

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    That's as far as the movies go, anyway. With pretty much everything from G1 through the Unicron Trilogy, it was toy first, animation second, the exception being TF:TM, where most of the new characters were designed for animation first.
     
  4. Brave Magnus

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    I see. thanks for answering, guys. ^^
     
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    If I'm right Beast Machines were also a case of Animation first then toy.

    At least in some cases.
     
  6. Feralstorm

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    As I heard it Beast Machines was kinda rushed in the pre-production phase, and designed the CGI characters from concept art instead of toy prototypes, Apparently there wasn't a lot of back-and-forth communication between Mainframe & Hasbro at that time (or it was a "you modify your design! - no... you change YOURS!" kinda thing). On one side, Hasbro put together some more animation-like toys for the second year. On the other, some of the toys looked better than their animated version. (definitely not all though)
     
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    It was Diaclones imported from Japan, then Transformers, comic books, TV-show.
    I just wonder if the Diaclones had their own show in Japan?
     
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    Character ---> Toy
     
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    Not in most cases.
     
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    As far as I know there wasnt.
     
  11. Drewcepticon

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    IMO..

    Technically, character first. But I'm speaking more of a concept sheet. They probably discuss with both parties how the character can be represented in toy and on screen. Once they come to a point they can both work with, then they create them. They wouldn't want to make a character that can't be translated into a toy.
     
  12. Backscatter

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    The only thing I've seen close to a Diaclone story is from some old Diaclone toy catalogs I have. Pictures of what looks like humans living peacefully among their transforming machines. Some of the humans wore Powersuits.

    I like to think that this is what Cybertron was like during the first Golden Age before the Quints attacked. It's also why I think Autobots like Humans. We remind them of the Diaclones.
     

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