Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Paladin, Aug 23, 2007.
Heh...that sounds ludicrist.
at everything in that story!
It's amazing what can be legislated these days...
Given my natural suspicion of bizarre stories with no given source and/or no link to the original article, I initially assumed this was from The Onion. But...
Granted, could still be one of those cases where an Onion article gets misinterpreted as actual news. I can sort of understand why China is going about doing this, for reasons of religious oppression, but it sounds completely idiotic when written out.
How can the Chinese government try to control what happens in the afterlife? Talk about extending your reach. Sheesh. What now? Gonna start taxing the devil for all the souls he steals?
What it will do is create a situation where they can put forward their own guy as Dali Lama when the current one dies. The Tibetans will, no doubt put forward their own candidate, and we'll see something similar to when Louis the something appointed his own Pope - the religion got torn apart by politics.
Remembering that for the typical Chinese citizen it's very hard to get news except for what the government tells you, it's easy to see how they expect to convince people that their Dali Lama is the true Dali Lama, and thus undercut Tibetan resistance to Chinese rule. It may seem ludicrous to us, but it's very serious to them.
LOL...I wonder how many Buddhist monks are laughing at China...
Considering the Chinese authorities named one of their own lamas anyway and have basically sequestered the poor kid since one wonders why they even bothered with this law. I think they also kidnapped another (the reincarnation of the Panchen[sp?] Lama possibly) and have never let him see the light of day, but don't quote me on that.
Keeping in mind that the reincarnations of the lamas are always discovered when they're young children, it makes the Chinese government seem even more cruel...
Chances are when the Dalai Lama dies his true successor will not be known until he's smuggled out of Tibet and China....if he's born there at all. There are a lot of Buddhists in other places, such as where the Dalai Lama has been living in exile.
Gotta love those wacky communists...
does anyone else smell a chinese goverment plant here?
also, just pick a kid who china cannot reach
Logic? In extreme control freak organizations? None.
It's like saying whichever god's messenger can't come down and deliver messages without authorization from puny mortals. PHAIL. Good on you, China. You've shown the world your wisdom.
Well, the logic behind it is evident.
It's quite ingenious actually. In a terrible way. It's a law that recognized reincarnation as a real process. When the next Dalai Lama is set to be chosen, a process that is expressly prefaced by reincarnation, the idea is that if anyone from outside the country is declared the new Dalai Lama without China's permission and goes to Tibet, they have effectively broken the law and will thus be locked away so there can be no Dalai Lama unless China declares one on their own terms. China is using Tibet's own belief system against them.
It sounds ridiculous but it's cutting off the 'problem' for them at the source by making unatuhorized reincarnation illegal.
I wonder what the philosophical fallout of such a law would be though? It basically declares an unproven metaphyical/supernatural/spiritual/whatever process is real. You can laugh all you want about the 'absurdity' of that until you think about the words 'In God we trust' in the west and what that implies.
What kind of precedents might this set, not just in Chinese law but for the world at large? An amusing scenario (and very possibly a woefully misinformed one but here goes): Imagine someone has come out and said they were Hitler or some other murderous soul, in a past life. If they're in North America, where murder has no statute of limitations would that person be held accountable for the murders of 6,000,000 jews even though a past version of him or herself was the culprit? Would German law kick in somehow? Would a war crimes tribunal be justified? You might say that's stupid but if you were a lawyer taking the case, there would be a legal precedent- China's official recognition of reincarnation- for the arguement.
China's f'ed up.
That pretty much says it all.
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