Wheeljack not respected?

Discussion in 'Transformers Robots In Disguise / Prime Discussion' started by Wheeljack30, Sep 19, 2012.

  1. Wheeljack30

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    What I don't understand is when Arcee asked if they should reach out to Wheeljack in order to help them, since they were down 1 Bot, why did Ratchet say after the mission he pulled with Miko Wheeljack could stay rogue, since when is Wheeljack considered a rogue? And even Optimus Prime didn't even bother contacting Wheeljack. I mean have team Prime lost respect for towards him? Ok yeah he could be a hard head, but he's still an Autobot no matter what. And in the episode Hurt, was it Miko that begged Wheeljack to take her with her? So Wheeljack to me he hasn't done anything bad to have team Prime lose respect towards especially Optimus Prime.
     
  2. kaijuguy19

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    It's not that the team doesn't want him around anymore it's just for now he's not really trusted right now due to him bringing Miko along with him for the revenge spree and almost getting her killed because of it. Arcee while mad at him last time did wanted to give him another chance but as we saw Ratchet's not willing to trust Jackie for a while.
     
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    Wheeljack clearly said that she is not aloud to come and that he was ready to bring her back, it was Miko's decision and fault that she stayed. Wheeljack again didn't wanted to bring Miko along
     
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    Yeah but she's a kid he should have known better. I would have turned that ship around so fast her pink highlights would have come right out.
     
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    But 20+ foot tall robot shouldn't have any trouble bring her back no matter how much she complains.
     
  6. ChaosDonkey

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    How many times did she sneak out with Bulk, with out having him turning her back?, and didn't she almost kill all of the kids with her stupidity in the Skyquake zombie episode?

    Wheel Jack is not around that often so he actually don't know how homo sapiens kids act in some sort of situations.
     
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    Yeah but Bulkhead is her bodyguard and you don't see the rest of the Autobots complaining at Bulkhead when he brings her along
     
  8. ChaosDonkey

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    One thing is when Bulk brings her on something he thinks is a harmless mission, another is when she sneaks out after him and then gets her and him in trouble.
    There is a reason also why the writers wrote in WJ comment to her at the end of the show "Welcome to the Wreckers Kid".
     
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    No.

    It was Wheeljack's call whether to bring Miko along or not. He was the adult and the decision rested in his hands.

    But in the end, Wheeljack prioritized his revenge over her safety and well-being in exchange for the information on who crippled Bulkhead. It was Wheeljack's call as to whether or not to make use of it or turn around and take his chances.
     
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    Miko is adult anough to make such decisions and pay the price. She is not two years old - there is no way she couldn't understand what she was doing. Otherwise you must admit: she is suffering from a dire form of mongolism, and she must be removed from the show to the special hospital.
     
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    Miko being aware of the dangers and consequences is besides the point; Wheeljack was in the position to steer her to safety and he made the choice not to. Hence why the 'Bot's were so angry at him when they returned because know better than to allow their own feelings cloud their judgement when it comes to the kid's safety.
     
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    ChromeBlade, WheelJack decided to treat Miko as a living being and respect her "right" to make decisions, when he could have mistreated her as a cattle. That's all you can blame him for.
    And the Autobots have put children into danger quite a lot times: they were angry baceuse they are dissemblers. Applying a double standard.
     
  13. ChaosDonkey

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    Miko have from the first episodes been a rash person that throw her self into situations with out thinking of the consequences, and putting other people and bots in danger.

    And now suddenly is WJ guilty of what she have done more or less for two seasons. The only thing he is guilty of is not knowing what that devil of a girl she is. Just the fact that she sneaked into Jackhammer with revenge in mind is enough proof of that.
     
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    If a 30-something year-old man were to have sex with a teenage girl, knowing she were a teenage girl and despite the fact that it was consensual, who's at fault??? The adult is held responsible because he should have known better.

    And how many times have the 'Bot's willfully and knowingly place the kids in such a situation? In the few times they were, the kids were generally in a position where they could be protected and if things got ugly, they were pulled out of danger. Other times, things happened. Not so here. Wheeljack knew the danger that would be involved with this and knew the chances of getting killed were high. But he made the call to bring Miko along anyway because he wanted that info from her.
     
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    Actually Optimus is guilty for not locking her up after Darkness Rising.
     
  16. ChromeBlade

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    Doesn't matter. There's a significant difference between an adult and a teenage girl. Regardless of what kind of girl she is, Wheeljack was the one in control of the situation.
     
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    The only thing that matters is that almost every Autobot is guilty of the same as Wheeljack. And obviously some bots have a problem looking them selves in the mirror, but no problem in pointing fingers at others.

    That is my point.
     
  18. ChromeBlade

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    Oh, really? The 'Bot's have always knowingly, carelessly and needlessly placed the kids in dangerous situations??? Where they knew what they were going into was dangerous, but brought the kids along anyway?
     
  19. ChaosDonkey

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    Bulk a couple of times, when she sneaked out with him, and he was to occupied to kick con a**, instead of ground bridging her home, and she also almost got Raf and Jack killed in the episode with Zombie Sky Quake.

    She have problems and she should talk to a shrink or be locked up.

    Another thing is WJ is not used to humans, so I don't realy think he have a clue about age, and when stupid humies becomes responsible for there own actions. The bot didn't even know what a petrol station is.
     
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    I'd like to see an episode where it's Wheeljack that refuses to help them, if only for him to be angry that they only like him when it's convenient.
     

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