What was the deal with DoTM's toyline?

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  1. Sideways77

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    One thing I like is when there's an almost equal number of Autobots and Decepticons in a line. But I didn't get DoTM.

    Movie 1 was a good start to the almost equal numbers.

    RoTF did a good job as well.

    But with DoTM, there was barley any Decepticons. There was 7 Decepticons, and the rest were Autobots.

    Does anyone know why they did that? Were they on thier 'good guys sell better' idea?
     
  2. TheMrmaster21

    TheMrmaster21 I will swallow your soul.

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    They were probably still with the 'good guys sell better' thing like you said. The first two movies, I got probably 15-20 toys of each faction. In the DOTM line, I probably got 9-15 in total.
     
  3. Sideways77

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    I think it's a terrible idea, personally. Kids can have thier Autobots, but give some Decepticons for the collectors.
     
  4. sideswipe88

    sideswipe88 Stig's Asian Cousin

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    Kids also need Decepticons for their Autobots to fight :D 
     
  5. harrismonkey

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    That was a problems when I was a kid.

    Bots outnumbered cons, which wasn't great. But what was really ridiculous was early GI Joe action figures when it was literally 2 Cobra against like 8-10 Joes in the first wave or two.

    Later it got a bit more even in terms of numbers, but I still remember waves where the Joes had heavy machine guns, and Rocket launchers and the Cobras had Falcons, Crocodiles and crystal balls to fight the joes with. It was beyond absurd.
     
  6. SouthtownKid

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    Good guys do sell better.

    It's one thing if the bad guys are on-screen characters. But there really weren't too many of those.

    lol! I never really thought of it that way, but you're right. And yeah, who can forget Raptor?
     
  7. jru42287

    jru42287 Where are my testicles, Summer?

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    There was far more wrong with the DotM line other than the ratio of good to bad.
     
  8. Knightdramon

    Knightdramon Hasbro LIES to the US

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    First TF movie did a very good job at individualizing the decepticons, there were only seven of them, each very distinct. A tank, a bulldozer mine scavenger, a police car, a chopper, a plane, Megatron and Frenzy.

    Second movie added all those constructicons who barely got enough time besides Rampage, Ravage, an almost amorphous Soundwave, the Fallen and tons of protoforms. Lots of small details lost in the camerawork, lack of alt modes [Ravage, Soundwave, the Fallen, all on screen]...and your toyline's a mess.

    Third movie? 3 identical cars, another car, Barricade who never transformed, Megatron in a new form rarely seen in vehicle...

    You can see that the more generic the decepticons became, the less likelihood their toys had of release.
     
  9. Deonasis

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    Good analysis.
     
  10. ORIO

    ORIO Plant-Based Bot Super Mod News Staff

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    And that's why I prefer the first film to the others. I hated all those generic cons.

    Also you forgot Shockwave for DOTM :D 
     
  11. jametron

    jametron Release the Kraken!!!!!!!

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    They did the same thing with "Reveal The Shield":

    Auotbots:
    Grapple
    Strafe
    Deep Dive
    Tracks
    Jazz
    Wreck-Gar
    Perceptor
    Bumblebee
    Optimus Prime (G2)
    Hot Rod
    Windcharger
    Goldbug (Legend)
    Prowl (Legend)
    Trailbreaker (Legend)
    Optmus Prime (Legend)

    Decepticons:
    Lugnut
    Cyclonus (Repaint)
    Chop-Saw
    Megatron (Legend)
     
  12. seekerblackout

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    The cons were few, but great. Voyager Shockwave, Deluxe Crankcase, the Seeker mold, Voyager Megatron etc. All great.
     
  13. Jazz342

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    2 bumblebees in every wave taking the slots that could have been used by soundwave, garbage truck, leadfoot, que, etc. just because stores wanted bumblebee to be prominent didnt mean they had to put so many out. They had molds and plans for other characters to be released, but despite common knowledge that the movies were a TRILOGY, hastak thought that they would still have a market for future movie toys in follow up lines and kept making bumblebees instead of the other toys. They didnt realuze that previous follow up lines were placeholders fir the upcoming movie. DOTM dint have an upcoming movie and so there was no reason to hold space. B&m stores clearance action figures from spring/summer movies every fall. Hastak was lucky to still have a market for movie toys long after the movies went to dvd.

    Sorry about the rant, did I answer your question?
     
  14. jametron

    jametron Release the Kraken!!!!!!!

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    Uhm, that's just it, they didn't :lol 

    The DVD dropped in what, October? The movie toy line was pretty much dead at that point. And by dead I mean tons of Wave 1 overstock and the inevitable (soon to be realized) news that the next wave (which was going to be the last one, anyway) was cancelled... all before Christmas.
     
  15. Scrapper6

    Scrapper6 Lord of Constructicons

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    You forgot Legend Starscream.
     
  16. jametron

    jametron Release the Kraken!!!!!!!

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    I had a feeling I was forgetting someone... Oh well, add one more Con to the list. Certainly does nothing to balance out the factions though!
     
  17. Bountyan

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    My Decepticons are also outnumbered in my Classics collection. And half of the Decepticons are third party. There are too many Autobots.
     
  18. Soundwinder

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    I still can't believe Deep Dive is an Autobot. Never understood that decision. The colors look Decepticon, the line needed Decepticons, the original mold was an Autobot so it would've been a good change, and there is no connection between the name and Autobots... so... WHY.

    Reminds me of Mindset, who makes even LESS sense. How is he an Autobot?
     
  19. Sideways77

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    It's the same 'good guys sell better' nonsense.
     

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