What made the autobots?? i'm confused

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  1. SMOG

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    This is the real reason.

    But yeah... I suppose the feral infant transformer, thrust screaming into this world is a viable explanation. Arguably, most of the Decepticons didn't really outgrow that stage. :) 

    To add to that, wouldn't it make sense that the process of giving life to new Transformers has some sort of ritual or formality to it? Like the "newborns" are chaotic and confused, but when birthed properly, they are "formatted" so they can function and communicate with their peers. Maybe each TF in a community/group uploads some small part of their programming to the mix, and the resultant blend gives rise to a new personality?

    But then, the Allspark has been lost for a very very long time... meaning there probably haven't been any newborn TFs in a very very long time.

    And the other explanation is that they are so primitive because they're just born wild out of stupid cheap earth consumer electronics. I mean, seriously... if you're going to build a real Transformer, wouldn't you start with quality materials, maybe even a pre-built body?

    Instead these ones are born out of primitive earth junk... so it's no surprise they wake up with the mentality and stability of angry transformer chimpanzees! :) 

    zmog
     
  2. wavelength

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    probaly a combination of the newborn and all-eareth-technology-is-revers-engineered-from-megatron plots
     
  3. Ravenxl7

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    My theory, is that because the TF's made by the Allspark during the movie were made from objects that weren't meant to become robots, that this caused them to be primitive in nature, while the Autobots and Decepticons were meant to be created, which resulted in them becoming more complex.
     
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    Yeah, I would agree that the primitive Earth tech created mindless beasts instead of true Cybertronians.
     
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    speculation on origins

    my guess is most of the transformers came from an adam and eve named alpha and beta. so optimus and megatron are like abel and cain. alpha and beta were created by the allspark. the allspark is just a machine that creates other machines. you can keep on looking for an endless series of creators but it is simpler to think of the universe as always being around in one form or another. matter and energy just changes form but is not created or destroyed. personally, i don't find the allspark useful and i much prefer elita-one's two giant headlights.
     
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    I like the theory that earth technology is reverse engineered from Megatron, therefore, the bots created via Allsparkin' on earth are essentially really, really dumb Decepticons. They probably retain Megatron's penchant to feel rage above all other emotions and lash out reflexively at anything and everything around them.

    And I don't care what anybody says, I see a Mountain Dew bot shooting cans of soda at everybody, I'm catching.
     
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    I like this answer.
     
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    Or just call the damn thing Vector Sigma.... It would have souded better than "I'm never giving you this Allspark"
     
  9. starscreamsgirl

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    THERE'S BABIES NOW!!!!:sly: 
     
  10. Ravenxl7

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    People are refering to the bots created by the Allspark during the course of the movie as "babys" as they are newly created Transformers :thumb .
     
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    Correct. The Allspark is not useful for robot-porn. Takes all the fun out of naughty TF fanfics, doesn't it? ;) 

    So a microchip is inherently evil? I think that's a problematic view of modern technology (though I am tempted to agree philosophically speaking).

    I mean, it's not like all modern technology actually came from Megatron literally... that's not what reverse engineering means. Human technicians still build cell phones and vending machines (mostly mechanical... hardly much room for "inherent malevolence") piece by piece. There is no "Megatron circuit" in them.

    Reverse engineering is sort of like a cave man looking at a sophisticated medieval catapult, and then being inspired to use the same basic ideas of leverage to build a simple see-saw.

    And then the see-saw turns EVIL!!! BLAAARGH!!! :) 

    The whole idea of how the Allspark works is completely ******ed anyway... though it did give us some funny scenes.

    zmog
     
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    it was I i created them ahhh my children.. just kidding
     
  13. starscreamsgirl

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    HAHAHAHAHAA!!!!
    it's stuipd but it's SO FUNNY!!!!
     
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    I"M SCRAED ......THEY HAD A FATHER!!!.........
     
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    i have a sence of humor
     
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    SHUT UP RAVENXL7 !!!!! I'm not blonde!!!!
    Oh.. and emo_transformers says hi !!
     
  17. starscreamsgirl

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    Yes you do have sense of funniness, HAHAHA

    on my other theory i think that frenzy could have set it too evil when he formed out of it .....but i have no idea bout bumble-b my theroy stops here...
    god i write on this topic alot...
     
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    You are assuming that whatever caused Megatron to manifest such hatred for his fellow 'bots wasn't something inherent in the physical design of his "microchips" (or whatever the equivalent would be) and that, simple and stupid though human technology would be by comparison, it's entirely possible any physical problem he had could have been transfered.

    Yes, it's far more intelligence than the actual plot of the movie, but this entire discussion is based on the premise that there's some inherent reason behind what happened. So, you can easily come in and say, "it's all stupid," because at the basest level, it is. But that doesn't make for a very interesting conversation.
     
  19. iamamachine

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    speculation on the origin of evil megatron

    my guess is megatron became evil because megatron's mama was too busy fighting in the cybertron war and did not breast feed megatron. lack of breast feeding also explains why megatron's face is so ugly and why megatron likes to suck on that allspark cube.
     
  20. starscreamsgirl

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    I might be a fan of starscream BUT THAT IS AN INSULT TO MY 2ND MASTER!!!!
    you stuipd human filth ..................... =.=
    no i'm just kinding but that is a pretty good answer!!