What is your Transformers head canon? (G1-TFA & RB)

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    The Megatronia combiner team is the product of a G1 Thunderblast's fanfiction, with Megaempress being her personal self-insert.

    In Cybertronian society, gender is seen as purely cosmetic. While some Cybertronians may prefer one gender over another when looking for romantic partners, this is seen more as an aesthetic preference than what we would see as a sexual orientation. In fact, it is far more common for Cybertronian to be attracted to physical features that have nothing to do with gender (for example, a Transformer attracted to huskier builds would be more or less equally likely to be interested in Bulkhead, Strika or Roadmaster).
     
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    Humans from the future created the original Transformer as a system that would allow everyone to live forever as single consciousness. Then came a disagreement where the factions split and became two beings. Primus and Unicron. Their battles would take them through multiple dimensions and eventually their memories of each other and the past would be lost. Primus began allowing its souls to leave the fold, creating the original Primes. Unicron did not.

    This explains why:
    - The transformers look human
    - Understand Human Culture
    - Why Unicron never appears to be looking for Primus and visaversa
    - The whole Spark thing
    - Till all are one
     
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    Unicron and some of his multiversal Uni-cronies.
     
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    The Cybertronian deity known as Xal comes from an old legend roughly equivalent to the Earth legend of Prometheus, referring to a being (either a minor deity subordinate to Primus or one of the first mortal Cybertronians created by him) that stole the gift of transformation from the Guiding Hand to share to the early Cybertronian race, and was later imprisoned or otherwise punished by Primus for his actions.

    The source and authenticity of the legend is often questioned by Cybertronian religious authorities and scholars due to it conflicting with most accounts the Adaptus of the Guiding Hand or Amalgamous Prime of the Thirteen, but some have speculated that one of those two may have been Xal. Others believe that Liege Maximo or even Megatronus may have been the "true" Xal, due to the similarities between Xal's eventual fate and what is commonly believed to have come of those two.

    In any case, a small but growing faith has arisen around the legend, albeit not one that literally worships Xal, but rather one that views him as a model of rebellion from authority. For this reason, Xalism was popular among the burgeoning Decepticon movement prior to the Great War, and even among Decepticons today its practice is not uncommon.
     
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    Before he was Optimus Prime, he was not called Orion Pax.
    Nor was he called Optronix.
    His name was Convoy.

    (Honestly, I don't know why IDW didn't think to do this.)
     
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    At some point close to the time of the Great Upgrade, Rodimus Prime gave his life to stop a great threat to Cybertron, releasing the full brunt of the Matrix's power against his mighty foe and dispersing is photonic crystal core in the process. The Cybertronian governing body that would become the Maximal Elders gathered the dispersed fragments and, unable to reassemble them into a full matrix, infused each of the fragments into a vessel of Rarified Energon designed to emulate the original Matrix, thus created the Energon Matrices, which would be given to worthy Cybertronians at Vector Sigma's discretion, bestowing upon them the rank of Primal (said rank named in honour of the lineage of the Primes that ended with Rodimus's sacrifice).

    ...Yeah, this headcanon pretty much exists solely to reconcile the Convoy rank of Japanese G1 and how so many of them have their own Matrix with Western G1 continuity. Speaking of which, the Western names for the Japanese Beast Wars Convoys (aside from a certain munky) are:

    *Lio Convoy = Leo Primal
    *Big Convoy = Big Bang Primal (formerly the Autobot general Big Bang, as if this headcanon weren't fanwanky enough)
    *Reverse Convoy = Nemesis Primal (one of the few Predacons to be granted an Energon Matrix)
    *Great Convoy = Star Saber Primal
    *Legend Convoy = Elita Primal
    *Fire Convoy = Pyro Primal (formerly the Earth-built Autobot Pyro Ignatius Spark, and yes I'm including Japanese Car Robots in this BW headcanon)
    *Galaxy Convoy = Cosmos Primal
    *Crow Convoy = Jetfire Primal (hasn't aged well since his days in the Great War, prone to his transformation cog malfunctioning)

    When it comes to the above who don't have explicitly stated Autobot identities, I'll leave it up to you whether they're the G1 characters of the same name or are just named after them. ;) 
     
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    Interesting. I call the various Japanese BW-and-friends Convoys "Optimus [something]" since we already have two Optimi in orthodox BW: Optimus Primal and Optimus Minor.

     
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    I always saw those two as being named after the G1 Optimus independently of each other, since naming kids after famous celebrities and historical figures is common in any culture, and let's face it, it's pretty unlikely that no two Cybertronians would have the same name at a given time.
     
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    Not if, in honor of the legendary leader, "Optimus" was made a RANK. ("Convoy" sure seems to be a rank or title in the Japanese Beast Wars setting.)

    Convobat = Optimus Feral or Optimus Shadow or Optimus Zero (haven't decided which)
    Lio Convoy = Optimus Leo
    Lio Junior = Optimus Junior or Optimus Neo (haven't decided which)
    Big Convoy = Optimus Major or Optimus Neo (haven't decided which)
    Fire Convoy = Optimus Fire (I consider him and Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron OP the same guy, who in my mind was originally Stepper -- the correct name for Targetmaster Artfire, of which I'm genuinely convinced)
    [Grand] Convoy = Optimus Thunder (Armada and Energon OP were once Thunderclash in my head)
    Crow Convoy = Optimus Corax
    Great Convoy = The Great Optimus (leader of the Convoy Council/"Optimus Order")
    Reverse Convoy = Optimus Reverse
    Etcetera...

    Black-colored Optimus clones that are good are designated "Onyx" (Big Convoy's good black clone would be Onyx Major), while evil black clones are designated "Nemesis" (Lio Convoy's evil black clone would be Nemesis Leo).
     
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    I certainly am not a fan of this kind of thing, but i figured if Arcee is Rattrap's greataunt Skyfire might be an ancestor of Transmutate.
    I think their faces and story are very similar.
    But that's probably mostly down to storyrecycling and trying to create a G1 feel and such.
     
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    Rack n' Ruin are like Más y Menos from the Teen Titans cartoon. They are individual robots who have superspeed when in physical contact with each other. Rack n' Ruin don't speak Spanish though.
     
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    The Thirteen were not actually the first transformers but the founders of Cybertroinian society who united the various tribes and states of Cybertron. Seven of them (Prima, Vector, Solus, Megatronus, Nexus, Alchemist, Quintus) formed the Knights of Cybertron and are denoted by the title "Prime" while the others were rulers of the six main tribes: Destrons (Tanks) led by Liege Maximo, Seekers (Jets) led by Alpha Trion, Vehcions (Cars) led by Autonomous Maximus, Omnicons (Trucks) led by Amalgmous, Minicons (Bikes/Small Vehicles) led by Micronus, and Predacons (Beasts) led by Onyx Primal. These tribes are the basis for the caste system established by the Functionist Council after the Second Cybertronian Civil War ended the Golden Age.

    Basically, a mix of the IDW, Movie, and Align continuities.
     
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    -In Decepticon tradition, rank is achieved through force rather than through achievements in battle. Which has lead to many regicides and coupes throughout Decepticon history. Those leaders who were not killed in an attempted coupe are exiled, as it is believed that a leader who cannot defend their title is not fit to lead. Which is one reason Megatron keeps Starscream around, to be an example of what happens when you try and overthrow him, and that he is still powerful enough to lead.
     
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    Huh. That's exactly what I always thought was the reason for Megatron keeping Starscream around. :) 
     
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    I think IDW did something similar in one of their old comics. Megs kept Starscream around so that his constant bids for leadership would kept Megatron sharp and always watching his back or something.
     
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    Behold some information from a story I've been writing for several years. For simplicities sake, I call it the BEU. But it's full title is The Blue Edge. My goal with the BEU was to write out an entire G1-esk universe from beginning to end, spanning many generations and fully ecompassing the entirety of Transformers lore and it's characters. Essentially, it's kind like my own IDW. There are currently 18 "books" within this universe that I hope to one day tell in the form of a comic. So keep in mind this isn't a script and is just my notes on the subject. Enjoy.


    Primus and Unicron started out as an eighth dimensional being known as Primacron. They where struck in two resulting in Primus and Unicron. The two battled for their ideals in a war that waged dimensions. Each if them creating physical bodies within our three dimensions in most universes throughout the multiverse.
    Eventually, Primus created the Thirteen and had them take a portion of Primus's own spark, The Matrix, and infilitrate Unicrons essence within a eighth dimensional space, effectively poisening him. This caused his essence to be removed from all his third-dimensional forms throughout the universe.

    Primus also constructed a third-dimensional construct within eight-dimensional space called The Pit, and sealed Unicron's essence there. This seal however is not permanant, and it would slowly break over time allowing him to-renter universes and regain control of his physical bodies. In an effort to halt the seals eventual release, Primus created his own third-dimensional construct within eight-dimensional space called The Allspark. He would then have all of his physical bodies throughout the multiverse convert into their planetary forms. From The Allspark, Primus could allow his essence to flow directly into the core of each Cybertron to create life. The Thirteen Primes took residence within The Allspark as well, and used third dimensional avatars to cultivate each Cybertron to harbor Cybertronian life.

    Eventually however, the time spent within Unicron's essence taighted the sparks of Megatronus, Liege Maximo, Amalgamous, Quintus, and Onyx Prime. They staged a rebellion against Primus, killing the Optimus Prime. The remaining Seven-Of-Thirteen banished them from The Allspark. Within each universes third dimensional space, the avatars of the Thirteen where seen as going to war. Megatronus, whose corruption had become complete to the extent his own spark was entirely of Unicron's essence, fled to a universe within the mutlitverse and took the form of his physical avatar, seeking to poisen the core of Cybtron with the Dead Matrix in an attempt to kill Primus. The Seven-Of-Thirteen stopped him, banishing him to The Pit alongside his master, trapped within a seal that would slowly break. The other Unicronian aligned Primes gave up their conflict, and all of the Primes agreed to leave and remove all of their avatars from each universe with the exception of Alpha Trion.

    Primus would eventually resurrect Optimus Prime and split his spark into multiple halves, each being reborn on Cybertrons as Orion Pax.



    Some details on The Allspark.

    The Allspark is a third-dimensional creation of Primus's own essence within eight-dimensional space. From the perspective of a 3rd dimensional being, The Allspark appears as a series of floating islands within a blue nebula. Each of the sections of the Islands is representative of the Thirteen Primes. The largest and central island is home to the Prima Basilica. A large structure that houses the Seven-Of-Thirteen as well as Primus himself in the form of a blue beam of light. Countless statues also inhabit the Basilica, representing Primes from throughout the multiverse. Collective avatars of other transformers throughout the mutliverse also reside here. It should be noted that the 5 Primes aligned with Unicron no longer reside within The Allspark, and Megatronus resides within The Pit. With The Allspark being of a creation of 3rd dimension space, time does indeed exist within it.


    The thirteen Islands are all named after their respective Primes or their roles. Each of the Primes power serves as an anchor for their island to the Allspark. The Islands of Entropy, Life, Instinct, Lies, and Change have become fractured and post-apocalyptic since their Primes banishment.

    The Isla Prima Basilica,
    The Island of Nexus,
    The Island of Entropy,
    The Island of Change,
    The Island of Fire,
    The Island of Elements,
    The Island of Power,
    The Island of Instinct,
    The Island of Lies,
    The Island of Time,
    The Island of Knowledge,
    The Island of Life,
    The Island of Hope.


    The Prime Masters:
    With the seals of Unicron and Megatronus becoming completly broken, but yet defeated in each universe by Optimus Primes or Rodimus Primes. The Seven-Of-Thirteen agreed to re-allow their avatars into specific universes third dimensional space, to serve champions they deemed worthy of their power in their fight against Unicron. These Prime Masters took the forms of their champions true inner self. The attention of the non-aligned Primes, as well as Megatronus and Unicron was obvious captured by this, and re-ignited the war of the Primes. The Primus aligned Primes took the infamous titles of the Children, and the Unicronian Primes the Heralds.

    Alpha Trion, Optimus, and Megatronus, who already had existing avatars within 3 dimensions simply attatched their Primes Masters to themselves. Unicron also took this time to create a new Unicronian Prime called Rodimus Unicronus.

    Children:
    Rodimus Prime-Primus & Prima
    Optimus Prime(self)
    Alpha Trion(self)
    Star Saber-Solus Prime
    Wreck-Gar-Alchemist Prime
    TBD-Nexus Prime
    Metalhawk-Vector Prime
    Perceptor-Micronus Prime

    Heralds:
    Rodimus Unicronus
    Megatronus(self)
    Razorclaw-Onyx Prime
    Deathsaurus-Liege Maximo
    Bludgeon-Amalgamous Prime
    Thunderwing-Quintus Prime
     
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    These are from the film series:

    T and Terry as Cade calls them are short for Twrecks and Terranotron, making mini Slug Triceradon

    Daytrader is a former con, specifically Swindle hence the bots issues with him.

    Dreadbot is a designation, his name is Hooligan leader of the dreadbots which include Crankcase, Crowbar, Hatchet, Beserker and Enforcer.

    There were originally 13 knights of Iacon, the thirteenth? Infernocus.
     
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    if there's one thing that terrible predacus comic did right, it's optimus primal's name being a result of him looking like optimus and being on the primal council.
     
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    Omigod I love this.
     
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    The planet where Hot Rod and Kup meet the Quintessons in Transformers: The Movie is not the Quintesson homeworld: it is the G1 universe's Aquatron.

    The Sharkticons fought by Team Bee in RID 2015 were part of the Quintesson invasion of Cybertron in the Transformers: Retribution novel, but once the had been freed from Quintesson control, they threw in their lot with the Decepticons.

    "Dinobot" is treated as a Cybertronian subspecies RID 2015 instead of a single Autobot subgroup because when new Cybertronians began to be born from the Well of All Sparks with the AllSpark's return, the sparks of dead Dinobots that had joined the AllSpark (other bots subjected to Shockwave's dinosaur experiments that either did not survive the process or died later, separate from Grimlock's group), became used as "blueprints" by Primus in the creation of new Cybertronians, resulting some bots to emerge from the Well with naturally developed dinosaur modes.
     

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