What if Optimus Prime didn't die in the original movie?

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  1. Bass X0

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    What if instead of giving the matrix to Ultra Magnus, the Matrix bestowed new life into him and restored him completely?


    What do you think would have happened for the rest of the movie? Galvatron would still exist though.
     
  2. flamepanther

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    We'd get a new Optimus Prime toy, and the Matrix would forever be derided by fans as even more of a story cop-out than it already is, since it would effectively make Prime immortal.
     
  3. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    Galvatron would still exist and we wouldn't have such Crappy Adeventures.
     
  4. Bass X0

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    No, not in terms of the toyline, in terms of the storyline.
     
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    If Optimus Prime didn't die in the movie, who knows what would have happened in the rest of the movie and into the third season? Though... I'd have to admit, it would have been nice if, at the end where Hot Rod is struggling to fight against Galvatron, Optimus Prime was revived just in time to stop the threat of Unicron... by the matrix, of course.
     
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    I'd have a different favorite Transformer, as Rodimus Prime would never have existed. :( 

    Also we'd have lost some of the better season three episodes: Dark Awakening and Burden Hardest to Bear.
     
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    He wouldve come up with the flame decal idea before Bay
     
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    Same thing in this instance.
     
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    The movie would not be as good without the drama effect.
     
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    I always thought, even as a child, that it would have been cool if the Ultra Magnus character never existed. Instead, Prime opened the Matrix and it upgraded him witih a new trailer and the ability to combine with it to become a super robot. My idea was sort of validated a couple of years later when they did basically the same thing with Powermaster Prime, and it was REALLY validated as an adult when I saw the old Diaclone Powered Convoy for the first time. That color scheme would have been perfect for my old childhood idea.
     
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    I've always thought that too
     
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    He would have eventually lost his edge, recorded a few subpar albums, cashed in on his older revolutionary work by selling it out for use in a few car commercials, ride the wave with 'b-sides' or 'best of' collections for a few more years before announcing his retirement, then coming out of retirement for a comeback/reunion show and then doing ads for life insurance policies for the over 50 set.

    Better to burn out than fade away, man.
     
  13. Alpha Prime

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    It would have been like that episode of family guy when grim sprains his ankle. The titanic scene.
     
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    I think if Optimus Prime didn't die, we would've have something of a more straightforward story, than we did to begin with, in which the Autobots defeat Galvatron/(Decepticons) and Unicron, because we all know if Prime is around the A-Team is gonna win no matter what. Aside from the actual reason (bringing in a new toyline and getting rid of the old line), I think Killing Prime was the writer's way of trying to bring a shadow of doubt into the viewer's mind ("What's gonna happen now, that Prime's dead?") as to how the situation would end up without the go-to Transformer in the picture. I mean, yeah, most probably figured out that the heroes would win and the villains would loose and were just pissed they killed Optimus, but you get the general ideal of what I'm presenting, qui (yes)?



    As for what his toy would look like, I have no earthly idea. Maybe they would've just gave him a new paint job or something.
     
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    Well, something similar happens in the little Japanese mini-comic that comes with Battle Covoy. Megatron basically tares Prime -Convoy- apart (Prime's in his Heroe form), but the Matrix within him basically begins to glow on it's own and reforms him into Battle Convoy -in the process completely restoring an arm and repairing all the damage that Megatron's cannon had done to his head-.

    Frankly, I thought that having something like that happen in the original movie would have been cool. Of course, if that had happened it would have changed a lot of things.
     
  16. hanwombat

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    I'm glad Prime died in the way S3 and S4 were so crap, hated the new characters except Springer, Prime wouldn't fit into it all without his fellow original Autobots ;) 
     
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    Movie would have sucked.

    The entire point of the movie is that HotRod is the chosen one who will light the Transformers darkest hour.

    Primes death was sad. It was realistic. That is why the movie is awesome. If not for the death it would have been another episode.

    This is also why I hate the Return of Prime. It hurts the movie so much.
     
  18. giga-galvatron

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    I too im glad Prime died. No Rodimus Prime, no depth in characters in G1. Rodimus was the classic coming of age story. He goes from grunt to the man incharge and now he must deal with the power and the responsibilities with it. Fuck Optimus. Rodimus was always my favorite. I grew to like Prime as I got older but I'll always want Rodimus to make a come back.
     
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    The movie sucks because they killed so many of the original characters. It was pretty obvious the way the movie was written, that they were just trying to get rid of the characters that were the foundation of the franchise. Especially when you get a guy who'd been patching up bots left and right all through season two, who suddenly can't fix a hole in the side of a robot. :rolleyes2 

    After Magnus was put back together, one of the Autobots needed to look at the Junkions and say "Look, our leader's back on Earth, and he's really fucked up."
     
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    If I could remake the 86' movie, I'd just let Ultra Magnus die at that point. He didn't do anything in the movie, never did anything in the post-movie season either.
     

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