and not just a transforming robot? I've seen the whole "The movie designs aren't Transformers, they're just transforming robots" argument more and more, let's break it down and decide exactly what's the difference. Transformers vs. TRs. They both transform, obviously, and are robots. Real Transformers are living things, and not piloted like some TRs. Transformers have "sparks". TRs - ? Transformers have names that are usually reused in one form or another. TRs - ? Transformers come from Cybertron. TRs - no. Transformers have two main factions at war with each other. TRs - sometimes. Transformers have a loose history/storyline that gets rebooted from time to time. TRs - depends on which ones. By now, you know where I'm going with this. Unless I'm missing the point (which is entirely possible), the movie Transformers are Transformers by definition. What, exactly, makes them NOT Transformers in your opinion? Let's try and discuss this with some civility and insights.