What exactly is...Snarl?

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  1. GWolfv2

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    Heading to my bed but thought i'd have some fun beforehand. So, you get a double one today...FUNSIES! Plus this is going to be a properly short one.

    So, what is Snarl, the guy who may not be in the movie.

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    Snarl is interesting because he's by far the most conservative of the dinobots. He lacks many of the exaggerated features of the others, so it makes my job easier.

    Despite several people's arguments of ankylosaur features, Snarl is almost indistinguishable from the Stegosauridae. The elongate and thin head, the relatively thin body, the sagittal plates and the tail spikes (thagomizers), classic stegosaurid. The lack of strongly spike-like plates or well developed shoulder spikes exclude all but perhaps...four taxa, all of which are in the Stegosaurinae.

    (god bless wiki_

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    Miragaia is distinguished from Snarl due to its quite thin plates and its hyper-elongate neck.

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    Wuerhosaurus has quite bizarre square plates so shouldn't be included.

    This leaves us with Hesperosaurus
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    And of course Stegosaurus
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    Unfortunately...this is kinda where we hit a wall. Both of these animals have diamond plates...and given the limited information Snarl presents us, that's basically our big identifier. The arrangement of the plates varies based on reconstruction. Hell, even the number of thagomizers can vary at times. At this data scale it would be difficult to establish genus or species, whether its something new or just a variant within a taxon.

    This gives us our first stonewalling, and spoiler, not our last. I cannot in good conscience place Snarl in either an established taxon or a new one. I can however give him a family level identification, and I argue that Snarl is an indeterminate stegosaurine stegosaurid. Sadly, I don't think a strong enough argument can be made to get better taxonomic resolution.
     
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    An angel on all fours that's eaten to much lettuce would be my best guess.

    Either that or a Kentrosaurus.
     
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    Wuerhosaurus

    eyes too big an thighs too skinny.

    anyway id have to say hes a generalized stegosaur, with wings for plates.
     
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    But he has spikes on his behind - like a Kentrosaurus.
     
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    judging from the spikes being so sharp i'd say he's closer to a Fuckupasaurus.
     
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    yet he lacks kent's parascalpular spines.
     
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    Uh...a robotic alien dinosaur?
     
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    Blame the Kre-O set for that one. For some reason Snarl's got a tail club instead of a thagomizer there.

    But as for your initial posts, yeah Snarl's pretty clearly a Stegosaurus and not a Hesperosaurus, as you posit for the alternate. The plates on the latter are more squared off.
     
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    I really don't know why it's a big deal which exact species of dinosaur the film Dinobots are, I don't think that's the designers were that picky. I think they just picked seven basic dinos (one-with-plates, one-with-sails, one-with-long-neck, one-with-frill, raptor-thingy, flying-one and huge-fuck-off-chompy-dino) and turned 'em all into giant spiky mechanical dino-machines of doom, destruction and death. And made the flying-one two-headed 'cause why the fuck not at this point.
     
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    The same species as the 3 spined spinosaurus, anklysaurous-tailed triceratops, two-headed pterodon and the horned headed T-Rex.

    Give it a rest.
     
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    If you crowbar a Kentrosaurus and Stegasaurus into Bill and Ted's phone both and if they love each other very much then they might have a baby that looks like Snarl (maybe).

    He's got spines on his tail and on his backside - he's just missing the ones on the hip / pelvis.
    He does have some clear sections on the back of the leg they might be more spines and he's even got them on his legs (and I can't say I've ever seen any dinosaur with spikes on the back of it's calves (that isn't a claw)).

    I would say a typical Stegasaurus seems to have sails/spines/plates that go down much closer to the head than other members of if family... Snarl seems to lack those (sort of).

    So I'm still leaning to Kentrosaurus at the moment - in terms of what I think he looks like - not what Hasbro thinks he looks like (which is likely to be a Stegasaurus).
     
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    Can't you see, It's Godzilla's cousin Mike who goes by "Snarl" on the weekends
     
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    ^ Yeah...I think I'll just stick with this theory for now.
     
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    Godzilla: HEY MIKE HOW'S IT GOING!!!!!????

    Snarl: Oh my goooooood, Godzilla, I tooold you, it's Snarl now.

    Godzilla: WELL OKAY, BY MIKE, SEE YOU AT GRANDMAZILLA'S BIRTHDAY!
     
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    A Stegosaurus.
     
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    or a Lettuceasaurus
     
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    or a Hamburglarasaurus
     
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    These! These are the words of a wise man!
     
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    Prrrrrooooobbbbably not gonna. Having WAY too much fun with these.

    Although will apologise for this one, put like zero effort in. My big interest in Snarl is whether or not he can use the plates to fly. That and it was three in the morning.

    Spoiler now, Slug's one is gonna be a biggy cause I'm going to have to provide a fair bit of background science.

    'Nother spoiler for the Slug thread...there is nothing unusual about his tail.
     
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    Some say his tail spikes are feather cores. (Slug not snarl).

    Takara should redo all of Beast Wars Neo only with feathers - laugh.
     

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