Were the 'Cons ever gonna kill Dylan?

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  1. Axel990

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    This is something that kind of hit me a few minutes ago.

    As we all saw in the film, Laserbeak was ordered by Megatron and Soundwave to kill off all the humans which the Decepticons had ties to, most likely to protect the secrecy of their involvement. However, they never killed Dylan Gould, the main human antagonist.

    I was curious if you think the 'Cons ever had the intention to, or were really going to allow him to live. Granted, his family had done work for the Decepticons since the early 60s. But when it comes right down to it, when to the Decepticons ever keep their word with human associates? As we saw in the G1 cartoon, Dr. Arkeville was under the assumption that Megatron would keep his word and allow the scientist to rule the Earth once he helped Megatron, but even Arkeville was ultimately screwed over.

    I'll be honest, I was pretty amazed that Dylan was treated as an equal to them in some way, like with Dylan actually giving orders to Soundwave on two occasions: having him retract his tentacles aimed at Carly and to kill their Autobot prisoners.

    So what do you think? Was Dylan to live the good life for a short while, only to meet his demise at the claws of Laserbeak like many others, or was he to live on in the new Decepticon regime (had it been successful)?
     
  2. SPLIT LIP

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    He was good as dead from the moment he meant Soundwave and Laserbeak.
     
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    I can see Megatron being a prick and having someone offing him.
     
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    They were either going to kill or enslave him once they got what they wanted. In the execution scene where Dylan orders the Decepticons not to take any prisoners, you can catch a hint of sarcasm in Soundwave's voice when he obliges him.
     
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    The Cons will probably kill Dylan eventually. Or worst, make him work as one of their human slaves.
     
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    He was probably going to die.
     
  7. Axel990

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    But didn't they technically have what they wanted once they took over Chicago? All the 'Cons were under the assumption the Autobots were killed when Starscream blew up the ship, and it was damn near impossible for any human military forces to get into the city. To me atleast, that looks like a done deal.
     
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    The thing I dont understand is when Dylan told Soundwave to kill the autobots, why did Soundwave listen to him? I mean yeah killling the autobots is what Soundwave probably wanted but it looked like Dylan was calling the shots. If I was a 20 foot tall badass robot i would not take orders from a human.
     
  9. Axel990

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    This. If Dylan is just gonna die anyways, why listen to him?
     
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    I think it was less that Dylan was bossing ANYONE around, but the way he was talking to Soundwave, especially in the scene with Sam and Carly, it made it seem that as long as he was being polite and requesting, instead of just bossing him around, that the Decepticons didn't mind obliging his requests that so-and-so be spared and the like. Without Dylan (And his father before him), their plan would have been much more difficult, if not impossible, to execute; it's only reasonable to keep Dylan happy, since he's willingly working for the Decepticons.
     
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    I think that Dylan's father helped the Decepticons the most and then he does as well let them spare him.

    Soundwave knows Dylan the longest if I get the mention of this right.

    Soundwave's sarcasm (if there was any) could have been more - "I was thinking the same thing" - or trying to throw the Autobots off.

    I doubt the Decepticons cared for him much but he was "raised" to work with them - making him practically a Decepticon in nature himself. The rest of the people working with the 'cons were adults when they worked with them.
     
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    In both occasions where Dylan ordered, he HAD a point:

    On the first: Sam wouldn't collaborate with his girlfriend being raped and murdered [not necessairly in this order] by mechanical tentacles right on his face, Soundwave probably realized that.

    On the second: He made a point about not leaving prisioners alive and the fact more Autobots were coming to strike Soundwave and his pals down.

    Besides, Soundwave was clearly mocking him on the second one, like if here thinking: "The human thinks he commands SHIT around here".
     
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    I hope so. So much for saving your hide McCreepy.
     
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    That's pretty much my answer right there.
     
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    I hope so he was really annoying imo.
     
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    Now that I think about it, the way Dylan "gives Soundwave orders" is probably due to how long they've known one another. Like a family friend sorta thing. The way lines are delivered would also back it up. "Soundwave, would you please." not, "Soundwave, stand down!" and "Prisoners? Your keeping prisoners? This was buisiness but now it's personal, do you understand me?" when it could have been "Prisoners? No. Execute them Soundwave!"
     
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    Probably. Even if Soundwave hadn't anything against Dylan, Megatron or some other human-hating Decepticon might have offed him down the track.

    This state of affairs makes me miss the Decepticons of the Masterforce era and Marvel's Headmasters arc, who weren't adverse to actual, sincere partnerships with humans.
     
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    I got the vibe that Soundwave actually considered Dylan a friend. I don't recall SW being a prick to him at all.
     
  20. Sideways77

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    Soundwave should've squished him when he had the chance. I mean, what human orders SOUNDWAVE around?
     

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