Weathering and Battle Damage

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by DJ Soundwave, Jun 6, 2012.

  1. DJ Soundwave

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    I was just watching DOTM again, and well at the end when you see Bumblebee drive up he is all clean and pristine in alt mode... but in robot mode he has alot of battle damage ans weathering.... I find that kind weird , I mean whats up with that ? I know they want to keep the cars mint, but still.
     
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    You're just noticing this now?
     
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    It bugs me too tho.
     
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    They've been doing that since the first movie.
     
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    The nanomachines making up their kibble don't have to keep hiding their battle scars when they're in robot mode.
     
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    The only instance in the entire trilogy where a beat-up dirty robot turned into a beat-up dirty vehicle was Bumblebee's first alt-mode in TF1. Other than that this has been a trend in all 3 films.
     
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    DotM Megatron probably counts too.
     
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    I guess Bay figured "noone wants to see a dirty sports car in the movie". Which is weird from a continuity standpoint and sort of shows he doesn't understand Transformers.

    It also doesn't really mesh with how the Wreckers were driving around in Stealth Force Mode.
     
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    More like the people that supplied them with the cars in the first place didn't want them to be advertized covered in dirt and damage.
     
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    Also possible, if you mean the companies. I imagine Bay and Co. bought and owned the cars used in the production.
     
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    Presumably the companies letting Bay use their products in his movies would rather he doesn't show them as all scratched up and dinged and shit. They'd want their products shown all spanky and clean and in the great condition they'd be available to buy in.
     
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    I suppose there's an interesting commentary on product placement involved in that, as the licensed companies may have more control over the direction and narrative, as one of the major financiers of the movie relies on their licensing and approval to profit from the film in terms of merchandising.
     
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    I suppose it's no different to when films have other products for placement and they can't be shown in a bad light. Like no-one is going to choke on the drink when they take a swig of Coca Cola, or the hero isn't going to whip out his product-placed laptop and it crap out on him.
     
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    Pretty much all about product placement. Didn't Ferrari object to Dino's supposed death scene in the first draft of the movie, and the writers then relented and changed it to Que getting offed by the Cons to appease Ferrari? Guess Mercedes-Benz doesn't mind having their product spokesrobot all shot up by lasers execution-style.
     
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    How?
     
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    Because it seems strange to have some cars driving around pristine and showroom ready, and others with guns popped out of shifting panels and laser cannons that don't exist in real life on the sides. But then, I guess Nascar cars aren't really commercially available to the average moviegoer.
     
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    The weathering in robot mode and clean alt modes is intentional. According to ILM clean robots don't looks real, and GM won't allow their cars to look like shitboxes in the movies.

    Actually, GM said that. You know if Bay had his way they'd all have scuffs and burns and stuff.

    But that'd also completely ruin the disguise. Transformers has never had to deal with this before because of the nature of cartoons and comics. It's only because of the live actions nature and hyper realism of the models that this issue exists. It has nothing to do with "understanding Transformers." This problem would exist regardless.

    And also the Wreckers don't need to disguise themselves as it's said in the movie they never leave the base. (Because they're assholes)
     
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    This. Heck, look at WALL-E. I'm sure if you were to spit-shine WALL-E up and wax his metal plating he'd look extremely computer generated. Like, fake-ly so. There's some shots in WALL-E where he looks tangible. Like a real, solid "reach-for-your-screen-to-touch-him" character. And it's the little details like dings, scratches and dirt that just make the artists' fantastic work that much better.
     

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