Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Thundersmacker, Jul 8, 2011.
How do you like your Prime?
Sunny side up.
With some Bacon on the side.
G1 style please. Vector Prime was alright, I dont know how many more Transformers are left in or around the earth to make another sequel.
And not too heavy on the sauce, please.
1.) We will kill them all (Reference to destroying the Decepticons).
2.) Decepticons threaten the freedom of others.
3.) To maintain the freedom of sentient beings, the Decepticons have to be killed, as they are an unrelenting threat.
All Hail Megatron!
The two are not mutually exclusive.
Freedom is the right of all sentient beings....good stuff.
If you take other's rights from them, you also forfeit yours. Goodbye, right to life, let alone freedom.
Step 1. Freedom
Step 2. Decepticons Threatening it
Step 3. ???
Step 4. Profit
Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.
I don't have a problem with Prime kicking ass when needed, but shouting 'give me your face, you die now, kill them all' etc seems like he is to oil thirsty and war wacky.
In a cave. With a box of scraps.
That's presuming all rights are of equivalent value with each other, which is pretty Nozickian, really. Whether that's a good or a bad thing is up to the individual.
War makes be best of us shirk our morals for the greater good. they only succeeded in realism in this case.
Half fried with toast and bacon.
Right to life and right to freedom are equal in my book. If you're taking one or the other from people who've done nothing to you, as far as I'm concerned you're writing your own death sentence.
Heres a line from Prime that makes me hate what Mr Bay and CO did to him even more. This comes from a character archive book from Dreamwave a few years ago and is a data track by Optimus Prime addressing Grimlock
"The very things that make him a better "soldier" than I am - his mercilessness, his contempt for the weak - are the tools of the enemy. We must not become like the Decepticons in order to beat them."
Kinna contradicts KILL EM ALL, and GIVE ME YOUR FACE!
Um, you do realise Movie Prime is a new take on a character. It doesn't invalidate G1 or any other Prime in any way, so it's ok for it to be different.
Yes I do realize that but you should retain elements that make the character who he/she is. There has been quite a few Batman movie and they all seem to get his character.
Yeah but he still has the same elements. It's a war and war is hell. Sometimes you have to kill to survive.
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