was Bulkhead wrong? (ARMADA SPOILERS)

Discussion in 'Transformers Robots In Disguise / Prime Discussion' started by MTME, Apr 22, 2012.

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Did Bulkhead go too far in killing Starscream?

  1. Yes he did go too far, and should not have killed him

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  2. No, he didn't go too far, Starscream deserved it

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  1. MTME

    MTME Well-Known Member

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    SPOILERS for ARMADA


    Was Bulkhead wrong in killing Starscream?
    He even looked shocked after he did it looking at his hands strangely.
    I noticed the wuote was almost the same from the movies
    "You left me no choice Starscream"
    "You left me no choice, brother"

    I know people might argue that we already have an Armada discussion thread, (but look at how many other Armada threads are out there discussing other things)
    this is specifically to address what Bulkhead did.
    War is war and there will be casualties on both sides but the Autobots seem to operate on a different code of honor.
    After all Arcee didn't kill Arachnid she put her in stasis where as Bulkhead killed Starscream (well the clone but he didn't know that).
    Granted there wasn't a stasis pod available, but once Starscream was out cold Bulkhead could have stopped but he didn't.
    In operation Breakdown Bulkhead even saved him but kills Starscream....and I noticed Optimus didn't say anything about it to Bulkhead yet compliments Arcee for her actions.

    AAAANNNNDDDD......discuss
     
  2. LCDR Blindside

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    Thanks for making this thread Bulkhead was fucking brutal. I didn't think he had it in him.
     
  3. kaijuguy19

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    Intresting point you have there. I guess you could say that Bulkhead let his emotions got the better of him that time. Though unlike Arcee it wasn't as severe. He seemed a little remorseful about it later on. Wonder how Optimus would've reacted to it.
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Yes.
     
  6. NCStarscream

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    Yes, and it reminded me of the end of TF07 as well. Megatron definitely had left Optimus no choice at that point. Starscream's clone was just being a jerk.
     
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    It was cruel, but necessary (IMO)

    GO BULKHEAD!
     
  8. LCDR Blindside

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    As far as ways to die go, I'd rather get shot or stabbed than have my brains beaten out.
     
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    It's pro-Starcee. If Bulkhead is mad at Starscream, then Ratchet won't install his t-cog. That increases the probability of Arcee doing it.
     
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  10. moreprimeland

    moreprimeland Optimus told me to do it! Moderator TFW2005 Supporter

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    'Maybe' as a third choice??--in the circumstances, yeah, I can see that it would have been sanctioned, even by Optimus. Autobots do have to kill Cons. It happens, even in the novels, the animated series. When they feel it's their last option, they kill, it's not like he shot him on sight, without a discussion first.

    Bulkhead probably had one hell of an Energon headache, he's on the warship, disoriented, feeling a bit outnumbered, first he sees the V/cons and then SS....no, he didn't know it was a clone at the time, but given that SS said the wrong things, made the wrong threats, so yeah, it was 'justified' :) 
     
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    In the sense that he had beat Prime to pulp, I agree Optimus didn't have a whole lot of choices at all. I never understood that line from the movie, since Sam made the choice and did it.

    As far as Bulkhead goes all I could think was its about time.
     
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    Your extrapolation, as modeled on an exponential curve, follows a degree I can't even describe. Just when I think you're gonna hit an asymptote—boom, the next episode comes along, and the fraction becomes oblique again.
     
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    I don't think so.

    I'm honestly tired of the Autobots being pacifists.
     
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    To be trutfull Arcee's not the pacifist type.
     
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    Arcee did not put Airachnid into stasis. She was fully prepared to fight. Airachnid ended up backing into it. It just happened this way. Arcee even states it wasn't what she wanted. WHY do people not realise this and seem to think Arcee did a great/nice/right thing and praise her? It's just not how it happened.

    As for Bulkhead. Yeah I think he went a bit "crazed/overboard" there. Filled with rage and only realised later what had happened. To which is lame comment of "You made me do it" seemed pretty bad/low for him...
     
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    I actually think people are pissed Arcee didn't snuff her.
     
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    Fair enough. I felt it was a reference to Optimus having made the choice that he was going to kill Megatron or die trying.

    And as far as the whole T-Cog thing in Prime, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets systems running on the Harbinger again and figures out a way to get it installed via the ship's automation or something.
     
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    Yes. Being the big "lug nut" in the group is no excuse for killing Starscream questionably.
     
  19. kaijuguy19

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    And what's ironic is that people before were annoyed at Arcee wanting to off Ariachnid before.

    Guess it's true what they say. Some people are just never satisfyed with anything. :lol 
     
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    Well that is fine. I'm just saying there are some people going around stating/acting like Arcee was so great and morally good in capturing Airachnid. To which this isn't the case. There was nothing different about this encounter then any of the others, other then Airachnid made a bad mistake/move.

    I'm glad Airachnid didn't get killed. It gives them a chance to bring her back if they want/need to. I actually like that Arcee (and the others) are not goodie goodie completely perfect good guys. They have emotions. People get pissed. People get vengeful. People act. It makes her more real that she isn't someone who can just be like "Ok, we cool. Now. I forgive you."

    I have no problem with Arcee wanting revenge. It might not make her a perfect goodie good guy, but it makes it more real. Not everyone needs to be perfect and noble to be still considered good.

    As for Bulkhead I am wondering if we are seeing a darker side to him... Or if this was just one of those cases where it was a one time thing.
     

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