Wait - Humans know of Cybertron?

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Ephland, Apr 28, 2011.

  1. Ephland

    Ephland Let's Go Rangers

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    "Everything humans know of our planet, we were told had been shared. You lied to us."

    How do humans know more of Cybertron than actual Cybertronians?
     
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    Presumably just NEST members. Galloway mentions this in ROTF - "You agree to share your intel with us..."

    And surely Optimus has told NEST and the government at least once of Cybertron - perhaps not in detail, but just summarizing their history.
     
  3. chojin998

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    Yep, another really huge plot hole. And they were claiming that Ehren Kruger knew Transformers mythology perfectly..well he surely doesn't know the first two movies that well even if he worked on 2nd one script too.
     
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    I think you interpreted it wrong. There's three parties, the Autobots, the Government, and the public. Optimus is angry about the Government lady not sharing all the info the Autobots gave them to the public. I predict this is what has caused the Anti-Autobot stuff, and Optimus is justifiably pissed.

    Remember, the Government hides and lies about stuff constantly. They never told teh Autobots about the ship crashigng on the moon.

    Yep, another person who didn't even bother to think before jumping to the "plot hole" nonsense.

    Also, have you seen the movie?
     
  5. Ephland

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    That's actually a great point.
     
  6. DarkChild

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    Optimus is probably talking about the fact that there was something on the moon the humans had forgotten to tell him about...so much for sharing everything ;) 
     
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    The information that Optimus has shared with our Government about Cybertron has obviously been revealed to either the public or others.

    Someone has told him prior to that scene that the info was shared and the Government had already told Optimus that the information wouldnt be shared.

    So hes saying "you lied to us" meaning that the info should of remained privy to certain people only and they have now shared it.
     
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    And all I did was a apply a little logic to the problem areas and let sit for a few seconds.

    I think the idea of humans and Autobots alliance breaking down is interesting, and I'm glad it's getting into the movies which are very pro-human/Autobot alliances.

    Another likely interpretation, but the wording of Optimus's line makes me think it's what I suggested, but your's is equally logical and possible.
     
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    SPLIT i agree that it could be either interpretation.

    Guess well just have to wait and see lol.
     
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    Either way, the simple prospect of the Autobots being forcably at odds with the humans is a great one. (something, again, ROTF barely touched on, sadly)
     
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    I think optimus is referring to Nasa knowing about the Ark and stuff and being mad that they didn't share it with him

    "Everything humans knew of our Planet, We were told, had been shared."

    Which is, Hes pissed that he wasn't told about the decepticons on the Moon until now since Nasa and Sector 7/Or Nest had never bothered to converse.
     
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    i actually agree on the theory that the autobots were told that the government told the public about the autobots and their purpose for being on the planet, but the autobots find out that it was never done, thus the public has no idea why the Cons are attacking so heavily, so they blame the autobots.optimus is VERY pissed it seems.I dont think the part where he was talking about humans loosing faith was the LAST SCENE of the movie, but optimus was just saying basically:" we've had enough of your non-trust in us, and for that, we're leaving the war up to you". and leaves...... but then comes back with sentinel

    thats my theory on it.
     
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    I bet sentimental Prime convinces Optimus to go back for all the memories hes had with the hoomans.
     
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    I find this very possible, myself.
     
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    Maybe it was the governments way of getting back at the Transformers for not sharing their weapons tech.
     
  16. Christiankid7

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    Id say maybe there was hidden info on the moon
    Megatrons in the "basement"
    Shockwaves on the moon :lol 

    AND

    the government steps in and says we dont need your help we wil defeat the deceps
    so prime gets mad and leaves
     
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    this
     
  18. AutobotSkids

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    Hmm. I don't think Prime and the Autobots leave. I just think he gets really pissed, pissed enough to bring his whole team to confront the government lady anyways. I mean, aren't Optimus, Ironhide and Lennox supposed to journey together at some point? How can that be if the Autobots leave and revive Sentinel on their own?
     

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