Violence in Transformers?

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was there any violence that was too graphic for a kid show?

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  2. no

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  1. LegionMaximus

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    I wouldn't show Transformers Prime to a young kid. They got away with a lot because "they're just robots, wheee!" And it's true that there weren't any human body parts or blood because "just robots." But Bulkhead ripping the robo-guts out of a sentient Decepticon soldier was still disturbing.

    Or the episode where

    Bulkhead brutally beats "Starscream" to death. Later in the episode we find out it was 'just' a clone of Starscream, but still . . .

    I like the show, but it was Y-7 for a reason.

    If we're talking about G1 Transformers (Sunbow) then that was pretty much all ages. Yeah, there was war and conflict, but there's always a sense of "everything will be okay." Except for the 1986 movie of course.

    I don't think most kids are very disturbed by violence if they can't see people being impacted. Like in Star Wars it's sad and terrible when Alderaan is blown up by the Death Star. But the human mind can't really conceive the enormity of the loss. It would be much more traumatizing to watch Luke, a single character we empathize with, get gunned down.
     
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    Transformers has always been in a strange gray area regarding violence. Many kids cartoons of the time use robots as the 'safe' violence targets - OK to kill/dismember/decapitate/disembowel/bisect/whatever instead of a living, bleeding being. (TMNT cartoon being the standout example, replacing the ninja clan with ninja robots, so turtles can take blades to 'em). Transformers was different in that the robots were the living primary characters. They took greater injuries than comparable humans, but were mostly handled similarly to any cartoon main cast. They're happy to massacre any ostensibly soulless robots though (I'm reminded of the over-the-top robot drone free-for-all in "Search for Vector Sigma"), and when the kiddie cartoon restrictions are relaxed, the violence ramps up (compare the 1986 movie's multiple gruesome robot deaths to the G.I. Joe movie's ... 'coma'. the Michael Bay movies are essentially robot gore porn delivery devices.)

    I wasn't personally disturbed by that, but that was one thing I liked about Prime that few TF series did. The robots viewed their mechanical components about the same way that humans see their own internal organs.
     
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  3. flamepanther

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    Except that the '87 cartoon turtles still weren't usually allowed to use their weapons on the robots directly. They usually ended up using their weapons to block attacks, and then used the environment against the baddies. :p 
     
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    Transformers is, in general, about as violent as a game of rock-em-sock-em robots. There's the occasional "gasp" moment, but it's rare and never with fleshies.
     
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    In the 80s toon, the only 'violence' we saw was the punches Megatron administrated to Starscream here and then, replaced by Galvatron on Cyclonus, but honestly one shot or a single punch or kick is not violence in my book. The rest didnt have anything disturbing, and no the 'killings' on the movie are highly exagerated. Even 5 year old me was wondering why the heck are they all blind when shooting each other, and how can they go 20 years of constant war without a single death.

    G1 had other more deep problems, violence was not one of them.
     
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    Fox Kids thought so. They edited the shit out of Beast Wars.
     
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    In general, Transformers are a robotic version of superheroes and villains, and that genre is inherently violent. Whether it's villains attracting heroes or heroes attracting villains, the conflict between the two is a hallmark.

    I think the only show which I thought was too graphic was TF Prime: Airachnid killed Breakdown, who then became a hybrid Sylas wore, which then got tortured/dissected by Knock Out and then turned into a zombie, which Airachnid then killed. Body horror and bonus torture.
     
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    Kids are pretty desensitized to violence these days, especially since most of them have phones and internet access.

    I wouldn't say any TV series was TOO violent for Transformers but the 1986 movie was as close to it.

    If there are deaths in Transformers, the character that dies usually goes out in a climatic/sacrificial/honorable way, but in the 86 film, characters die in a pretty unglamorous/realistic way.
     
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