urgent! - Identifying reissues/encores etc.

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  1. Phoenix Blaze

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    So, if I were to buy a reissue or an encore, would the maker's stamp be Hasbro/Takara 2001 or something?

    Like, a more modern date mark opposed to the G1 line having 80. 84?
     
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  3. Phoenix Blaze

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    That thread seems to be more about KOs.

    What I need to know is, will an Encore or Reissue (official ones) have a later date mark? Like 00, or 01? Meaning one with 80, 84 is a G1 original?

    More info might help. It's a Tracks which is listed as "G1 reissue" so I have my doubts as to what it actually is.
     
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    If it narrows things down at all Tracks was reissued three times.

    1) 1990(91?) Classics line - Europe only.
    2) TFC collection. (Circa 03, or 04?)
    3) TRU exclusive reissue. (Circa 03 or 04?)

    2 and 3 probably have identical stamping. Don't know about 1.
    Odds are the Tracks your looking at is 2 or 3.
     
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    Ah, I see.

    That's a tricky one. You'd probably need to ask somebody who has both for each one.
     
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    The thing is, from the looks of it, it has the 80, 84 date stamp on it (on the back, white bit), but the seller was totally assured it wasn't G1.

    I just want to know exactly what it is as, if it really is G1 and not reissue, then I'll be a very very happy bunny. If not, then I'll still be very happy.


    Three times, wow.
     
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    made in japan = g1
    made in china = reissue

    just ask the seller which above stamp is on the figure
     
  8. Phoenix Blaze

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    China.

    Oh well. So why would it have the older date (84) stamp? Were Hasbro's TF also made in japan?
     
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    it's still using the same old mold. All early g1 were made in Japan, later they starting to cut cost so you will see stuff like "made in Macau" and "made in taiwan"
    The japan made toys had better quality, however I believe some of the later g1 were never manufactured in japan(scorponok for example)
     
  10. Phoenix Blaze

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    There should be a book about all this stuff. I really like the early diaclone stuff and it's transformation (hehehe) into Transformers.

    But, can anyone give me a solid answer to:

    "If a TF had a manufacturer mark of 80, 84 does that mean that was the year it was made?"

    OR

    "do encores and reissues have a manufacturer date of when they were reissued, ie 2000, 2001 or whatever".
     
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    Bump as I'd like an answer to this.
     
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    I'm pretty sure they do. My only Encore, Starscream, is stamped 2002.
     
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    The year marks actually have to do with the year the design was registered, not so much the year of production. This is why you will normally see GI Joe toys with a year mark of 1981 if they were issued in 1982, and so on. Some Transformers had marks dating to the 70s due to their inclusion in the Diaclone and Microchange lines and the way Japanese law registered them, even if the toy itself was from 82.

    The short answer is, it's very hard to tell by the date markings. Some reissues still have the original stampings. Some got updated dates when their molds were used for G2 (but not all), or when their molds were refurbished for the reissues.

    You'd be much better to look for something like Fred's variations guide (I'm not sure if this is still online) that talks about what changes were made to th toys with each successive release. Those are the clues that will let you identify the figure correctly.
     
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    Fred's Complete Transformers Variants and Variations Page!

    It may not be as complete as it once was (?)
     
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    Hmm, thanks for the link *favourited*

    My Tracks launchers look more like the 03 version, with the little dimples at the end of the launchers.

    Thanks for the help folks.
     

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