Unofficial Photographic Archive Volume 1 and 2

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by brr-icy, May 11, 2017.

  1. TCJJ

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    Which is just another reason for me to lose all interest in this; that they didn't even seem to bother to cater to customers outside the US.
     
  2. SirToys

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    Instead of listing the current price put a qr code in the corner that links to a companion website which embeds ebay code linking to current auctions for that figure, which would be another source of revenue.
     
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    Looks very cool, will definitely be following this Kickstarter.

    The book I really want to see is a Transformers version of 3DJoes "Art of GI Joe" books, which collect high resolution, restored images of the card and box art, plus any original art from book covers, merchandise, magazines, etc. Something like that for Transformers would be a "no brainer" for me.
     
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  4. Ryan F

    Ryan F Transform and Roll Out! TFW2005 Supporter

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    Like this, you mean?

    https://www.amazon.com/Transformers...505307689&sr=8-1&keywords=transformers+legacy
     
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    MindChamber Multi-Media-Masta

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    These would go great with my TF box art tablebook

    Possibly any concepts sketches?
     
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  7. Max Rawhide

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    Ouch. Pricy.

    Would love to have this, but have to pass. I can understand the books being expensive, but then expensive shipping, plus the likelihood of import taxes (at the very least 21 percent VAT over the total value (declared value plus shipping), administration costs for customs and very possibly additional taxes) makes it way too expensive.

    Real shame, because the books look good.
     
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    If you go around looking for reasons not to do something, you'll surely find them. :) 

    That is one of the saddest things I've read on this forum. Look at all of that burden placed on the consumer above and beyond the actual product price, to the extent that they can't even afford to purchase the product. I always wonder when I see posts talking about VAT and similar anti-consumer economic systems if the posters ever connect the dots and realize this is the result of their country voting for socialists for many years. Free markets don't result in nonsense like VAT. I'm not trying to step on anyone's sacred cow but the economics of product affordability need to have a light shined on them from time to time. Thanks to widespread economic ignorance most don't realize they get precisely what they voted for and continue to perpetuate the problem when they hit the voting booths next time, choosing whoever promises the most handouts without realizing the same people promising the (not actually) free stuff are from the same group that took away their former wealth via redistributive taxation schemes in order to fund the previous "free" stuff given to other voters in order to get elected the last time. I feel bad for all of you that are stuck in such overbearing, failing systems. Here's hoping you gain some greater degree of economic freedom one day. Here's hoping we all do.
     
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    Well I think Max definitly has a point. If I buy it it will cost me 150+ dollars with all tax etc. To me that's way too expensive, especially when Im only interested in vol.1
     
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    ljacone it's not quite the same as what 3DJoes does, but it will get you the package art. It does not contain any of the great stuff outside of just the box art except some unused box art and promo pieces. What 3DJoes does is exceptional, and yeah, it would be nice to see the same done for Transformers.
     
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    Having gone through a similar thing in trying to get my book out I can say this, it's not easy tackling shipping issues when you are doing this on your own. I had shipping estimates to Japan be $45 from my publisher when I could ship USPS for $22. Publisher gave options for "International Shipping", but then I got a note from a fan in Switzerland saying he was blocked from ordering. Being my first go at doing a book, I kinda had to explore new options as hurdles appeared, so it'll be the same for these guys. Just be courteous and bring it to their attention and see if they can get more info. The last thing they want is for the project to be unsuccessful. They want you to have these books on your shelf just as much as you do! :) 
     
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    Perhaps, but I don't want reasons to not buy it... but I have them, since they don't seem to give a damn about customers outside of the US. Nothing against (most) Americans, but I get really fed up with this US-centric world we have. I know I'm far from the only one, too.

    I don't want to get into a political debate but the problem is that it's not just socialists. We've got an election here in New Zealand in two weeks (and, like everyone else, it's a fucking shitshow), and our governing party is conservative right-wing (though they often act very liberal, but only on certain matters) and has been for nine years. In fact, we don't even really have many socialists as such, and yet between the liberal left party proposing to tax everything from our water to driving a car in our biggest city (and only that city), and the "conservative" right-wing party increasing our GST (basically the same as VAT - "Good and Services Tax" which applies to all commercial goods nationwide) from 12.5% to 15% (and still trying to push it higher), our whole economy is fucked. And I could go on about other ways in which they have hurt and continue to screw over our economy, but the point is, it's not just socialists, it's moronic politicians and people who have more money that sense who are making these choices which negatively affect us all.

    I don't disagree but they specifically posted on Facebook saying they were waiting to launch the Kickstarter until they had done their best to get reasonable international shipping rates, and yet they go live with absurd prices, a bunch of missing countries, and even just shipping to Canada costs $46!
     
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    Maybe... Then again, when the company I worked for went bankrupt four years ago I received for almost two years a government payed unemployment allowance which was 70 percent or more of my last salary, so I didn't have to sell my house or becoming drowned in debt while I was trying to get a new job. I also receive a tax cut over my mortgage thanks to the government which enables me to afford my house (and have money left for nice things). Furthermore, I don't have to worry about completely unaffordable health insurance or medical expenses (although the insurance is increasing) and I like eveyone else with a low income, get a government refund to accomodate the medical insurance which pays for more than half of it. And of course all the infrastructure is paid from taxes including protection against flooding and rising sea levels.

    And something that doesn't impact me personally, but homelessness isn't much of an issue here (and they also have income), the minimum wage is such that nobody has to starve unless they've spent too much money elsewhere, essential products like bread and basic food have a maximum price limit so everyone can afford it, there's a pretty good wellfare system for those who really can't get a job, disabled or those injured so they're unable to work are taken care off, there's a government paid financial aid for rent based on income (so even the more poor can rent without going broke), etc...etc...

    Socialism based economies definitely have their advantages over pure capitalism based ones.

    Sure, if I buy a luxery item in another country they will charge me VAT on the imported items -- but if I bought them locally I'd also have to pay VAT over them.

    And I'll gladly pay taxes because of all the benefits it entails: taxes enable the government to spend money and a large part of it comes back to the people in the county and part of that is support for those who need it. And that includes VAT over imported items. Only thing with import taxes is that I feel that particular system is flawed. I'd have no issue paying 21 percent VAT over an imported item...if it was just over the item. But for some reason it's also charged over the shipping costs and an additional administration costs which apparently is service costs to the commercial shipping company who pays the VAT upfront so you get it delivered faster.

    Sadly, this is a luxery item that's already pretty expensive (for understandable reasons -- btw, local published books are subsidised those more affordable) and already more than I am willing to pay. International shipping is too much compared to what I normally pay, and on top of those two already too expensive points, there's the import taxes.
     
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    Am I reading this right,if I want a copy of both books and shipped in the US,its goinga cost me 110 bucks?
     
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    The high shipping costs are a dealbreaket for me. I have no issues with the price of the books or paying taxes (because I enjoy the benefits of those taxes; like streets) but adding the same amount of money to ship two books rub me the wrong way somehow. :) 
     
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    No. Shipping in the US is an additional $15. It's gonna cost you 125 bucks.
     
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    ...one twenty-five including shipping; i believe they're using the cheapest USPS priority mail flat-rates available...

    ...honestly, priority mail rates are very reasonable for the standard of service; book rates can be cheaper but they take forever to deliver and often arrive beaten-up pretty badly...bear in mind that the super-cheap shipping rates seen at the likes of amazon are only viable for large-scale commercial operations, not small-scale hobby projects like this...

    ...unforunately, stateside we don't enjoy the same ridiculously-subsidised shipping costs chinese retailers have used to dominate the global online-sales industry...
     
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    The price is, well... a bit on the high side (and ridiculous for non US folks)... but I think this is a laudable goal. The previous books we've had like this are all flawed (The Cybertronian is hard to find, individual issues are bound poorly, and the trade dress / dimensions of the books don't match up well, the Alverez books are okay, but have some poor or incomplete samples, etc.) in some fashion or another, so I guess I'm willing to shell out for a high end version of this.

    If time/space allowed, reprinting tech spec info to me would be more useful than a current price guesstimate, as would original MSRP, if possible.
     
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    Thank you both for clearing that up.
     
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    I'd be interested in a soft copy PDF. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Everything is digital these days, including books. It's so convenient to copy a PDF to your smart phone or tablet and browse through it ANYWHERE (yes, you can be taking extra long shit breaks at work). You already have the high res uncompressed image files. This can be a much cheaper alternative and will not have any country limitations (unless you're in China as everything is blocked) - just e-mail backers with the link to download when ready. I can't see this being much more of an additional cost or work for you guys. Add it as an additional pledge option.

    Think about it!
     

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