Universe Jazz Design discussion

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  1. Foster

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    You know, I'm almost certain a Universe-style new deluxe mold for Jazz will be made eventually. But what should it look like? Jazz varied quite a bit between the G1 toy and the animation model, not as bad as Ironhide and Ratchet, of course, but there were design differences and it's open to debate.

    -Door wings versus no wings?
    -Short or tall horns?
    -Shoulder-mounted rocket launcher or no?
    -Should he sport the number four and other race logos, or have a more street-legal look?
    -How about those show-only flip-out speakers? Fit those behind the spoiler or leave them off to reduce kibble?
    -And what about those added features from newer incarnations, like Animated Jazz's headphones or nunchaku? Movie Jazz's rabbit ears and trunk shield?

    I was really impressed by the Legends Jazz, the simplicity of having no doors or shoulder rocket launcher, and I thought a deluxe with a similarly streamlined design would set him apart from the Prowl/Streak mold much better. And the woofers in car mode would be ultimate Jazz fanwank, like Rodimus's buzzsaw hand. Thoughts?
     
  2. Sage o' G-fruit

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    Edit: I've got no idea what the cartoon Jazz is like then. Shoulder launcher and door wings would be nice then. :D 
     
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    I would prefer to maybe have to doors fold around to create the bicep if that makes sense. Kind of create a shell around a post that goes down to the lower forearm. I don't want wings.
     
  4. Razorclaw

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    If they can just use the animated Jazz as a basis, just change the overall cartoony and human-like estethic, I think that would be a good universe Jazz,
     
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    Great topic! Honestly I never thought about it, but having no door wings would be pretty cool as it would mirror the G1 toon model better... not that I mind the door wings on the toy.
     
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    No door wings would look awesome. Short horns also. I would like for a G1 paint scheme but a street legal one would be cool as long as it has the racing stripes. Also Prowl went from a 300zx to a 350z, will the modernize the car also for Jazz?
     
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    G1 cartoon accurate please
     
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    using nissan inspired designs is one thing since takara at least have a license from nissan. the porsche situation is reportedly much more sensative. they may avoid something to obviously porsche inspired. that said i think the doors should stay and the giant shoulder cannon should be optional and concealable. hiding something that big would be a challenge mind you.
     
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    Porsche 911 GT3 :) 
     
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    Wings, no wings, WANT!
     
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    I really like the idea of door wings on Jazz even though Prowl/Smokscreen/Silverstreak share that feature. I just thought they looked great on his toy and some of the more recent comic artwork I've seen.
     
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    Great topic... I love nitty gritty design detail talk.... :) 

    I'd prefer a Universe design that payed homage to G1 Jazz while not aping him directly.... more or less in the same way most other Universe figures interpret their characters.

    I guess I would vote for:

    -no door wings.... save those for the Nissan cousins (formerly the Datsun cousins)

    -no missile launchers; save that gimmick for some sub-woofers

    -sub-woofers that fold out somewhere, preferably somewhere that would work in both robot and vehicle modes

    -I think I'd be okay updating him to a modern, street-legal Porsche, something a bit more rounded and stylish than his old 935 mode. In lieu of the actual racing logos I think I would prefer more generic red and blue stripes. I'd like him to pass for a car you could actually see on the street, not just at a racetrack. Although I would happily pick up a "race repaint" later on.

    -as for the horns, short horns.... long horns look a bit silly.

    -as added note, I think if there were ever a robot that needed a "happy" face design, this is it. I'd like if they took a cue from Classics Bumblebee and gave him a bright, peasant face.... not a dour mug like Prowl, Sideswipe, and Ironhide sport.

    -oh, and finally, leave a peg hole somewhere on him that could accommodate a Targetmaster, for the inevitable Ricochet repaint. :) 
     
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    Jazz is the last of my top ten fave characters that has yet to be made into a classic. I'd like to see a hinged option on the door wings so that they could either be tucked away or left out depending on preferance, but I'd like the double posability option, short horns too. Definately a white car with the blue rasing stripes, must have a spoiler, but maybe the spoiler can detach to form some kind of weapon, like an extra holster for the shoulder riffle, kinda like Sideswipe's rocketpack/engine. His car mode could be slightly based on his movie car if necessary to avoid legal issues with porche. And he needs a nice light piped visor, or something like that, along with a nice smile, totally agree with the last poster on that. Not to mention the obvious Ricochet repaint.
     
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    A cartoon look would be the way to go. Sort of find a way to capture the elements that fans think of when they think of the character and less of the attempt to be like the original toy.

    Later on if they wanted to do a repaint they could go with something street legal, but come on this is Transformers where you could have an Indy car roll down main street without anyone thinking gee what is an Indy car doing here.
     
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    I like all the options, hurry up hasbro and make this!!
     
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    What I want to see in a Classicsverse Jazz:

    - Porsche Cayman S like alt mode. Naturally, it doesn't have to be exactly one, just resemble one enough as the rest of the Classics vehicles kind of resemble what they are.

    - Door wings. Because quite frankly, the doors have to go somewhere. If the doors were to say, fold into his back, it may limit articulation- no good. If they were to become his forearms a la Sunstreaker/Sideswipe, I don't think it would look very good. That said, they shuold be less pronounced than the Prowl molds' wings.

    - No shoulder launcher(s). I'd rather have a pair of speakers come out like the Prowl molds' shoulder launcher do.

    - Yes on the Rally deco and number 4. I don't think they can legally put "Porsche" in there, but it should at least say "Martinii".

    I... think that's about it other than say, transformation. But that shouldn't have to be said. Nothing is really wrong with the G1 transformation, it just needs the articulation. I think I'd only change the feet some really.
     
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    Maybe a way to have door wings, but door wings that could also be folded down or something so you could also have no door wings and maybe a flip out shoulder launcher so you could decide if you want it out or not
     
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    LOL How did I double post with someone else's post in between?
     
  19. Zherbus

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    I'm okay with no wings, but I like the winged look better.

    I'm 100% okay either way for long or short horns.

    Yes, shoulder missile launcher please.

    I personally want the race logos.

    I could definitely stand not ever seeing those flip out speakers.

    No thanks: I want a G1 Jazz, I already have an excellent Animated model and a crappy Movie model. ;) 
     
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    a new mold will be nice. But maybe it will just be a repaint of Prowl w/ a new head, in HTS special black box that costs $5 more.
     

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