Unexplained things between ROTF and DOTM

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  1. supernova222

    supernova222 Circle of Light

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    ok, there are plenty of things that happen in between ROTF and DOTM that aren't explained in comics or other media. some being:

    *what happened to arcee

    *why aren't the cons using the nemesis anymore it was a decent base yet, for an unknown reason, they have moved all operations to a junk heap on earth. I mean did the ship run out of power or what and they go to all the trouble of bringing the hatchlings to earth to sit in barrels.

    *why the cons are in a frickin desert instead of something more suited for them

    *why megatron's head hasn't been fixed after 3 years while bumblebee had his legs fixed shortly after the first movie, i mean starscream can instantly reatatch a frickin ripped off arm

    give your opinions and come up with some others.:) 
     
  2. Nachtsider

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    1. She went to wherever Barricade disappeared to and decided to stay.

    2. The electric company cut the power when the Cons did not pay their bill, and forced them to vacate.

    3. They like making sandcastles.

    4. Megatron thought that the look flattered him.
     
  3. Rogzilla

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    -Arcee was killed in ROTF

    -After ROTF, Soundwave told Megatron about the Ark. He would want to be located on Earth, ready for when he would be able to meet up with Sentinel again.

    -What would be more suited? Megatron likely wanted something isolated from humans.

    -Same reason Bumblebee's voice box is harder to fix. More delicate parts in the head, requires a lot more work. And, perhaps, Megatron wanted it as a reminder of his failure.
     
  4. Sithknight1001

    Sithknight1001 The "Fallen-er" Fallen

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    There are way to many plot holes in the movies to list. I would say the big one is where the twins went. I know they were in the novel but movie wise they just disapear between ROTF and DOTM.
     
  5. supernova222

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    arcee got shot in the shoulder in ROTF but survives the DOTM prequel comics then vaniches
     
  6. Rogzilla

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    Irrelevant. The comics are not cannon to what appears on film. Skids and Mudflap were in DOTM comic but not in film.
     
  7. eagc7

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    to some of us they ARE CANON, they are even more canon nwo that they are not compatible to the adaptations themselfs, ya ever heard of Personal canon?

    also SKids and mudflap ARE in DOTM (u can see their alt modes behind of the autobots convoy when we see the new nest base
     
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    - Died between movies

    - It can be assumed that it ran out of power, though why a Decepticon task force was hibernating on the moon is another matter entirely.

    - In the desert, in the middle of nowhere, where no one would look. Unless your an animal.

    - Starscreams arm was ripped off, not blown into oblivion. Repairing a brain is delicate work even for a robot. It has been stated in the "The Transformers" comics that Optimus once destroyed Meg's transformation Cog, he was stuck in his gun mode for I believe 2 years.

    They were "in the film". For like 3 seconds.
     
  9. arceelover13

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    1.Arcee is chillin with me in my crib.[along with her sisters ;] ]
    2.they couldn't get at&t
    3.they wanted to become one with nature and they are raising alpacas
    4.he kept the scar for the ladies
     
  10. mrgalvaprime

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    1. Arcee went missing on a trip to the bermuda Triangle

    2. They realised that the water suppy from the martian icecaps (used as coolant) was filled with frozen scraplets but not until it was too late

    3. They have spf30 sunblock they want to use before it goes bad

    4. He wantsto mimic shockwaves face
     
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    The DOTM game has it that the Cons were in an old Siberian Soviet facility but due to Starscreams incompetence, the Bots found them and were forced to flee. DOTM happened before Megatron could find another base.

    As for Megatrons head. It seems he was killing his doctors so that and a human tricked him into ruining his own plan and get killed, makes me think OP caused brain damage when he played stop shooting yourself with Megatron.
     
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    There is no such thing as "personal canon". You do not understand the meaning of the word 'canon' - what you are talking about is 'personal continuity', and with that, of course you're free to accept/not accept whatever the hell you like.

    Canon, in the context of literature or media franchises is NOT subjective. In the context of the Transformers films, canon is that body of work that any subsequent production needs to acknowledge or conform or "fit into".

    If Michael Bay or anybody else made a TF4, and choose to contradict something that happened in "Nefarious" or "Rising Storm", this is not a canon contradiction. Like the makers of Star Trek, or Star Wars, they do not have to acknowledge the tie-in media.

    If TF4 stipulates that Bumblebee had never arrived on Earth prior to DOTM, then this is clealy a canon "violation" as two of the movies that form this body of work's canon (TF1 and ROTF) clearly show something contrart.

    Sorry to go on, this is one of my pet hates amongst fandoms (and as I'm a Trek fan as well, this comes up A LOT!!):thumbs2: 
     
  13. Chris McFeely

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    The Decepticons are on Earth to prepare for the plan they put into motion in DOTM. They're in the middle of the desert because as DOTM explains in its opening monologue, NEST has ringed human cities with Energon detectors that'll alert them to their presence. So they're hiding out somewhere far from civilization to avoid being discovered. This isn't rocket science.
     
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    Exactly.
     
  15. Chris McFeely

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    Remember, kids, if official, licensed fiction has worked hard and gone out of its way to retroactively create an explanation to resolve a plot hole people have complained and wondered about - fuck that shit, it's only a stupid comic.
     
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    (1) At least two of her components were killed, or at least seriously injured, onscreen in RotF. Word of God from those involved with the movie is that Arcee is completely dead, but the destruction/death of the third component isn't shown onscreen. The comics have Arcee injured in RotF but Elita-1 and Chromia fine, until Elita-1 is subsequently killed off.

    (2) They needed to be on Earth, closely monitoring things. In addition, they may not have had the resources/energy to justify flying back and forth between Earth and the Nemesis.

    (3) "Something more suited for them"...such as where, exactly? They needed somewhere far removed from humanity, which leaves very few places remaining on Earth. Pretty much only the desert, the ocean, the Arctic or the Antarctic...and the latter two won't work because extreme cold has been shown to disable TFs in this continuity.

    (4) Several possible reasons. Megatron's wound is much different, with a large section of his head being vaporized; new parts would either have to be found and installed or built from scratch. In Bumblebee's case, it was just parts removed, which could presumably be reattached without too much effort. The Autobots also have a dedicated highly skilled medic with plenty of resources, while all the Decepticons have are the Scalpel-bots (which Megatron has a habit of killing) and virtually no resources.
     
  17. SPLIT LIP

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    She's around. You wouldn't see her, though. She's on a secret mission.

    The Nemesis was trashed. The only reason they were there at all was because the Fallen and Hatchlings were there. However once they died and Megatron lost the ability to fly they rounded up the few surviving hatchlings 9and by they I mean Starscream) and set up shop on Earth while they waited for plan A-b to begin.

    Because they really didn't have a lot of options. At least a wasteland means nobody's gonna bug you. Besides it was a temporary base. A few months slumming it is worth it for world domination.

    Humility. If you mean why does he still have workers on his head, it's because sensitive systems take time and a delicate touch to heal and repair. Legs and arms are easy, it's basic robotics to them. Your brain is not your arm. You fuck up fixing that you don't get do-overs. Also, Starscream's arm popped off. Megatron's face was burned away.
     
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    In ROTF, Arcee and Elita-1 (using the toy names) are shot and killed, only Chromia manages to hide behind a wall and is never seen again. Anything else is up to you: you can assume she also died later in the battle, or you can follow the comic explanation.

    As some has already said, they wanted to be on Earth to continue working on the plot: Soundwave and Laserbeak with the spy/assassination work, Shockwave in Chernobyl "stealing" the Ark part, Megatron commanding (also he seem to have lost its flight capability).

    And remember that the Nemesis is in a bad shape also, pretty much destroyed and as Starscream said "without more energon the hatchlings will keep dying", it cannot sustain them for much longer.

    Again as said by others, they're hidding in an uninhabited place.

    Well just assuming, but I think that's because he needed to have his body repaired first, as he lost an arm, and his legs and chest were heavily damaged. Bumblebee only lost his legs, but he was fine enough to take down Brawl.

    Also Bumblebee is a lot smaller than Megatron and had more resources and support at his disposal, while Megatron is a fugitive in hiding.

    As the russian cosmonauts pointed out, the pillars were recovered by someone (decepticons), so its easy to assume that after recovering the pillars, they prepared a task force and went into hibernating till the space bridge was opened, signaling the start of the invasion.
     
  19. eagc7

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    besides beign caleld personal contintuy its also called personal canon
    http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Personal_canon

    i would not worry if the comics are contradicted by a tf4, we have john barber to fix those plot holes (if he writes them)
     
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    I think it's safe to assume that any autobot that we don't see in DOTM is dead.
     

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