Ultra Magnus- Megatron's Nemesis in the Great War

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  1. RedWolf

    RedWolf Well-Known Member

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    What's so interesting in Animated is it's back story.

    Optimus Prime here is not the Autobot supreme commander but Ultra Magnus.

    Animated's first scene is a flashback of G1's War Dawn with Dion being at the end of the clip.

    Ultra Magnus being one of the most popularly speculated by fandom as Dion.

    So what we have here is an alternate Cybertron history much like Turtledove's alternate history novels of Earth.

    Megatron instead of earning the emity of a certain Orion Pax earns the emity of a certain bot named Dion who is rebuilt into Ultra Magnus.

    Ultra Magnus in G1 has had noted rivalry's. Cyclonus, Shockwave and Galvatron.

    But in this continuity he is Megatron's opposite number who won (tentatively) the Great War.
     
  2. Ra88

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    That...Is actually the best fantheory on the G1 footage I've heard so far.
     
  3. Sso02V

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    Something to note is that when they mention the great war, they're saying "great wars," meaning that maybe it was more like the crusades than just one big war.
     
  4. knook

    knook Let the Virus Consume You

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    I'm actually annoyed, i still think Sentinel Should be the Supreme Commander, and Optimus and Sentinel shouldn't have "Prime" at the end of there names. It would be interesting if Prime and UM where rivals because then Optimus could follow after Sentinel and UM would be furious, kinda like a prologue to RID but not :p 
     
  5. swarlock

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    Best theory I've heard. But I think Sentinel Prime is the Big Kahuna on the planet and Ultra Magnus is his second in command. And he hates Sentinel as much as Optimus does.
     
  6. RedWolf

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    Ultra Magnus was called Supreme Commander of the Autobots.

    No Sentinel is not the leader of the Autobots.

    He is only a member of the Cybertron elite forces.
     
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    I have to admit, I love the concept of this being an alternate timeline where Ultra Magnus leads instead of Prime. Optimus (by the look of it) washing out of the Academy is a great touch.
     
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    ditto

    Fresh new ideas FTW
     
  9. Hobbes-timus Prime

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    That is a really good theory.

    I think the fact that Sentinel answered Prime's call and then patched Optimus through to Magnus in the first episode shows that UM is the one in charge.
     
  10. Lady Dragoon

    Lady Dragoon FOR THE HORRDEEEE!!!!!!!!

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    I join the cries of this is a awesome idea. :D 

    (And I hope it's right and we get to see flashbacks to Utra Magnus time in Great War. :D )
     
  11. swarlock

    swarlock Autobot Supporter

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    I stand corrected then.
     
  12. Master Fwiffo

    Master Fwiffo Bonecrusher Hates You

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    It's the little things that matter.

    I loved that the Autobot Recruitment Vid/Historical Propaganda showed Dion saluting - who became Ultra Magnus, the leader of the Autobots! It would be like showing, say, a young George Bush saluting in an army history vid. Hilariously clever, that.
     
  13. optimusprime42

    optimusprime42 Autobot Leader

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    so prime isn't the autobot leader that's just prime
     
  14. Black Oracle

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    Anyone else think that the reason Magnus told Optimus (Spoiler): "Don't try to be a hero. It's not in your programming." was not because he didn't believe he could be one, but because he wanted to protect him from the hardships of such a role, which he himself presumably has experienced in the Great Wars? I'm thinking that may be the case.
     
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    possibly, though I think it's probably to the effect of the reason for Optimus washing out of the academy having to do with unnecessary heroics.
     
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    All this has really set me wondering on exactly what got Optimus out of the Academy. There's clearly history between him and Sentinel, and it's not good history; what could have possibly happened that was so bad...?
     
  17. optimusprime42

    optimusprime42 Autobot Leader

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    i remember magnus telling prime that
     
  18. Lockdown

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    Well apparently we will find out as Kickback has made mention that Sentinel has a very good reason for his dislike of Prime.
     
  19. Razorclaw

    Razorclaw Are ya gonna draw pistols

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    This thread is super. A lot of speculations that actually make sense.

    As I stated in another Animated thread, this is a rehash of G1. Everything happening from the start of MTMTE in G1 is not taken into account, while everything else prior to that is history in the Animated universe. That's why we have old G1 scenes on the beginning of Animated as a propaganda video.

    I like that UM is the supreme commander of the Autobots, with Sentinel being his dick adjutant (sp?). I'm also intrigued by the story of OP in his Academy days. I can't wait to find out what happened. I'm thinking something like Johnny Rico in "Starship Troopers" movie.
     
  20. Silent_Magnus

    Silent_Magnus Taint of Primus

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    I don't really think this is an "Alternate universe" in that sense.
    There was no allspark being fought over in the G1 cartoon.
     

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