Ultimate Extinction #3 - What's going on with this series...?

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  1. thefrozenred

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    Here's a sum up of what happened in Ultimate Extinction #3:

    Silver Surfer vanishes suddenly. One panel hint at "ultimate weapon" to kill Galactus. Xavier contacts Galactus, Silver Surfer returns as reply.

    I know Marvel, and the Ultimate books in general, have a tendency to focus on character development and exposition, but after 3 issues we STILL don't have a reason to care for Misty Knight or the Moon assassin (unless UE is just a vehicle to create/introduce Ultimate Moonknight), the Surfer is as ambiguous as ever, and nothing particularly interesting or cataclysmic has happened on the humans' (or Galactus', for that matter) side of things.


    I got to read all of Ultimate Nightmare for a total of $1.25, and for that it was worth it. Ultimate Secret was worth even less, and now it looks like Ultimate Extinction is heading down that same, anticlimatic road. Which is really unfortunate, given the subject matter.
     
  2. .SentinelPrime Is Dead.

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    Ultimate MoonKnight has already appeared in ultimate spider-man.
     
  3. Sparky Prime

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    True, but that wasn't who thefrozenred was talking about even though that's the name he typed. In Ultimate Extinction there was a character named Heather Douglas aka Moondragon who tried to kill Silver Surfer in the first issue. Anyway, I'm hoping that the action picks up in this mini-series soon and hopefully it doesn't turn out anticlimactic like the first two before it.
     
  4. SubotaiBaghatur

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    Warren Ellis isnt much of a writer for the Ultimate universe. I enjoy most of his other stuff, but these mini-series have sucked, and his ultimate FF4 was atrocious.
     
  5. Chrono Grimlock

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    What the hell? Is there no continuity in the Ultimate Marvel Universe anymore? Jesus, Ultimate Secret had Thor on the team, Ultimate X-Men had Cap and Armor Black Widow, in the Ultimates Nick fury had his arm ripped off, and Cap was put on ice. During the Venom arc of Ultimate Spidy they mention doctor Richards, who clearly wasn't young read from UFF. Ultimate Extiction has has the FF and Ults. come together, which clearly can not tie into the Ultimate book, on any level, unless we're to believe this Ultimate Galaktus stuff was waaaaay in the past (which it couldn't have been since Ult. Secret had armor Widow). Ugh, And I don't even wanna get into Spider-Man only being Spider-Man for 9 months. Jeez, that doesn't tie into the other Ultimate stuff at all. The FF have been around for about a year now, Ultimates a little over 2, and Peter was supposed to be the 'first' Ultimate hero. In just over 5 years the I feel like there needs to a Crisis on Ultimate Earth and some other major retcons. I mean, I still read Millar and Bendis talking interviews about how the Ultimate world is "real". Bullshit. ... er...

    Yeah, very boring issue. I'm not even sure I want to keep paying for it, it's not the worst Ultimate story but unless it turns out to be a dream, or Prof X wipes some minds, it's not gonna fit in. Hurray! For Ultimate Deadpool showing up in Spider-Man though!
     
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    Oh...I *did* mean Ultimate Moonknight (Moondragon + Misty Knight = Moonknight), but even still...3 issues in, and we don't care about the Misty Knight or Moondragon characters yet.

    As for continuity, I believe I read a blurb in the front of both U:S and U:E that says that these series take place BEFORE Ultimates 2, ie, before Iron Widow, crazy Thor, crazy Cap, etc.
     
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    Bah, that doesn't fit because the events of Ultimate Nightmare were mentioned in Ultimate X-Men and the a few issues later Armor Widow shows up. And there's no blurb on U:E and it seems Thor is off the team... so it would appear to be post crazy Thor. lame
     
  8. DevilzFan

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    We were told that the Ultimate Gah Lak Tus storyline does indeed take place before Ultimates Vol. 2.

    Basically, take every Ultimate Book, and pull out Ultimates. Because that's the one that's never in continuity. The dickhead who draws Ultimates is the reason it's out of continuity. He's also the reason for the change in the creative teams with v3. Macchio is sick of his bullshit, as are most of the others working on the Ultimate Universe.

    As for the "Reed Richards" thing in the Venom arc of Ult. Spidey, that was before they were planning on an Ultimate FF series, and was based on the Ultimate Team-Up issues (Which are not Ult. Continuity)
     
  9. The Spider

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    Wait wait, where'd you get this info? I'm well aware of the change in creative teams, but I think that the LAST thing anyone would want to do to replace a late artist is to replace said late artist (Hitch) with ANOTHER potentially late artist (Madureira)
     
  10. Chrono Grimlock

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    OOOHHH shit. I forgot about that. Thanks for that; it completely slipped my mind. I still think about 1/3 my rant stands. The Black Widow in the armor... and Cap appearing during Magnetic North... yeah!
     
  11. DevilzFan

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    I get some info now and then from a friendly source. I was bitching about the book always coming late, and he found out the reasons for me.

    As for Joe Mad, as far as I know he's only ever been late on his own book. He never had deadline problems working for Marvel in the past.
     
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    I'm not buying it, I cant believe Marvel is upset with Hitch; they knew what to expect with his super detailed pencils. Millar and Hitch have been alluding they would not continue after volume 2 for almost a couple years now.
     
  13. DevilzFan

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    buy it, or don't buy it. Doesn't matter, it's the truth. v2 has been later and later with each issue and it's pissing off the wrong people. There have been quite alot of complaints about the lateness. Hell, they've basically written off everything in the Ultimate Universe as occuring before Ultimates v2 because of the continuity problems with it.
     
  14. Chrono Grimlock

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    I thought Joe had a few deadline problems with Uncanny X-Men? I mean, they had a fill in arist just about every three months after his first few issues. Oh well, I'm looking forward to his Ultimates.
     
  15. The Spider

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    Yeah, there were fill-in issues, though I think on average he produced at average seven full issues a year. I'll check on this later. Hopefully, though, Loeb can get Madureira to be more timely. I think it's still kinda weird that they'd be that irritated with this, especially since Warren Ellis, who's writing ULTIMATE EXTINCTION, is the one who's working with Adi Granov on the extremely late IRON MAN series (yeah, yeah, I know, not Ultimate, but still... Come to think of it, Orson Scott Card's ULTIMATE IRON MAN was delayed too, wasn't it?).

    And yeah, as much as I like Millar/Hitch, I'm actually just as interested in seeing how a Loeb/Madureira ULTIMATES turns out.
     
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    Y'know, I wish there were someone to tell me how the Ultimate Universe syncs up with itself sequentially.

    I mean, Ultimates #2 references Ultimate Marvel Team-Up, so that must be canon.

    Also, just because Samuel L. Fury mentions Ultimate Nightmare doesn't mean that it happened yesterday. I don't know when Ultimate Nightmare (and Secret & Extinction) happens in relation to the rest of the Ultimate titles, and I would like to know.

    Also, I never read Ultimate Daredevil & Elektra and Ultimate Elektra (because they're sh**) and Ultimate Marvel Team-Up because it's so rare.
     
  17. DevilzFan

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    Team-Up is not "canon". The only possible thing in it that could be is the Hulk issues. But it's best to just ignore the entire series pertaining to the Ultimate universe.

    Ult. DD and Elektra and Ult. Elektra were both pretty damn good series actually.
     
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    It's funny that for a series of books that were supposed to, you know, free writers from the horrid continuity issues with the 616, they've painted themselves into a corner again where they have to go and completely ignore stuff again.

    Goooo Marvel!
     
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    Gonna pick this up as soon as I see it. So was there any more exposition on Gah-Lak-Tus, like what the hell he really is? Is he really just a swarm of robots that look like 616's head or are those just his "bullets"?
     
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