Twist Tie Packaging Rant

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by archieboy, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. archieboy

    archieboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2011
    Posts:
    6,914
    News Credits:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    Likes:
    +1,102
    Just got my hands on an MISB Armada Unicron. Getting Unicron out of the box however quickly turned my excitement into maddening frustration.

    Twist ties are the crappiest idea in the history of toys, EVER.

    Can anyone explain the logic for the use of this infernal packaging system? I can think of a couple of possible explanations, but maybe some of you would know the REAL reason why this has become a dominant industry practice.
     
  2. The Dark Seeker

    The Dark Seeker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2011
    Posts:
    22,280
    News Credits:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    352
    Likes:
    +1,922
    I usually don't let them bother me too much. Nail clippers usually solve the problem quickly.....unless they tie it in a certain manner to where nail clippers can't get to em.
     
  3. Aernaroth

    Aernaroth <b><font color=blue>I voted for Super_Megatron and Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Posts:
    24,391
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    367
    Likes:
    +1,360
    Because they're a cheap, easily manufactured and structurally secure way of keeping a toy from rattling around in the packaging, damaging itself and its surroundings. From an engineering standpoint, wire with plastic over it as a solution is a pretty smart one.

    Now, the paper ones which are made from an even cheaper, recyclable material are even more brilliant. I love when they use those. Just use a pair of nail scissors, snip snip, problem solved.

    But yeah, holy shit did Armada Unicron have a billion twist ties. All the robot-mode packed figures from that time did.
     
  4. archieboy

    archieboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2011
    Posts:
    6,914
    News Credits:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    Likes:
    +1,102
    Yeah, that's what I first thought. But then I remembered that some of my toys came in molded, egg-tray type cardboard, probably the same as what you mentioned.

    Another negative impact of using this packaging is how it takes away a lot of the value of the item once the toy is taken out of the box and this may discourage and/or decrease the possibility of reselling. So maybe this is why they're doing this, to minimize the second-hand market.
     
  5. Satomiblood

    Satomiblood Prototype Black

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2007
    Posts:
    19,640
    Trophy Points:
    282
    Likes:
    +107
    To better secure the toy in its bubble and tray? They're there for a reason and a good one at that. It shouldn't be that big of a deal if you have yourself a nail clipper or wire cutter handy.
     
  6. optimus124

    optimus124 PSN ID - OPTIMUS124

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2007
    Posts:
    650
    Trophy Points:
    157
    Likes:
    +3
    Ebay:
    At least they've moved away from the metal wires and use the paper based ones.
     
  7. archieboy

    archieboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2011
    Posts:
    6,914
    News Credits:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    Likes:
    +1,102
    Can't this be achieved with molded cardboard or plastic inserts? These work well enough on some figures. And I doubt that they cost more.
     
  8. KnightHawkke

    KnightHawkke Flynn Lives TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2004
    Posts:
    10,876
    Trophy Points:
    342
    Location:
    The Grid
    Likes:
    +276
    There is only one reason those things (in whichever form) exist. Theft deterrent. Protect the money.
     
  9. Satomiblood

    Satomiblood Prototype Black

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2007
    Posts:
    19,640
    Trophy Points:
    282
    Likes:
    +107
    I'm sure they can, but the twist ties aren't really that annoying. And trust me, I've opened up many a TF package. In recent years, they've gone the paper tie route, so it gets even easier.
     
  10. Macross7

    Macross7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2006
    Posts:
    8,288
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    282
    Likes:
    +858
    Ebay:
    Hasbro doesn't care about 2nd hand market. They don't earn a cent from it. Their job is to get the toy intact and presentable to the person who buys it in the store. Twist ties accomplish this. Its not their fault if someone opens the toy and 'devalues' it. If you think about it, twist ties make reselling more honest since a buyer can see if it was opened before. The bubble 'egg' makes it much harder to see if a toy was opened before.
     
  11. Soundwinder

    Soundwinder I wind sounds!

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2011
    Posts:
    4,829
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +415
    ... what's the point at ranting about something that has already changed?
     
  12. Dormamu

    Dormamu I am Broot.

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2007
    Posts:
    5,264
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    212
    Location:
    Clarksburg, MD
    Likes:
    +56
    There is so much you can do with those twist ties though. They're great for Christmas Ornaments, the Battle In Space Matrix, for putting figures on for painting, for hanging pieces out for drying, for tying up your garbage when you don't have a good enough twist tie, the list goes on.
     
  13. optimus124

    optimus124 PSN ID - OPTIMUS124

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2007
    Posts:
    650
    Trophy Points:
    157
    Likes:
    +3
    Ebay:
    Honestly, that's a bonus. It's more about securing the figure
     
  14. DecepticonSpike

    DecepticonSpike Member of the Scrappy Doo Fan Club

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2005
    Posts:
    8,969
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Location:
    Dayton, Ohio
    Likes:
    +1,370
    Twitter:
    Instagram:
    I love the paper ones they use now, compared to the plastic ones. Easy to untie or cut.
     
  15. Aernaroth

    Aernaroth <b><font color=blue>I voted for Super_Megatron and Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Posts:
    24,391
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    367
    Likes:
    +1,360
    Re-selling is such a tiny component of the market that Hasbro likely doesn't even think about it. Similarly, noone is going to buy a returned toy for the same price as a sealed on at the store, so they usually get sent back or clearanced anyway. It's not really something they'd put a lot of thought into.

    Some figures, but not all, and yes, they're more costly in terms of material, engineering, and weight, and in a lot of cases, less effective.
     
  16. process

    process Hanlon's razor Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Posts:
    7,879
    News Credits:
    35
    Trophy Points:
    292
    Likes:
    +545
    Ebay:
    I love recycled paper twist ties. I feel like there's already way too much plastic in Transformers packaging.
     
  17. Optimist_Prime

    Optimist_Prime The Original Optimist!

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2007
    Posts:
    4,182
    News Credits:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    212
    Likes:
    +44
    Ebay:
    The only reason I enjoyed the wire twist ties is the can be handy in some custom projects.
     
  18. KA

    KA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2003
    Posts:
    23,291
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    327
    Likes:
    +72
    U just opened Up twisty tie era amd unicron?

    Welcome to 8 years ago! :lol 

    Jeez dude, weve had that paper based tie material for awhile now, ur ranting on something thats already redundant.
     
  19. ORIO

    ORIO Plant-Based Bot Super Mod News Staff

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Posts:
    20,166
    News Credits:
    36
    Trophy Points:
    392
    Likes:
    +133
    Ebay:
    I believe preventing theft in a retail store is also part of their purpose
     
  20. Lumpy

    Lumpy Taylor Swift Actionmaster Super Mod

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2002
    Posts:
    19,354
    News Credits:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    367
    Likes:
    +153
    this...

    also, there's a really simple solution to twist ties, whether they're the old kind or the new paper kind...

    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page