Transformers Vs. The Visionaries #1 PREVIEW

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  1. Focksbot

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    OK, just as a point of correction, pretty sure it's the case that we have the words "Centrist" and "liberal" being tossed around for all the positions you describe here. The pejorative implication of being a Centrist or liberal is that you're basically what used to be called a soft conservative, someone who gets edgy around anything vaguely new or progressive and likes the status quo. The term "alt-right" is reserved for people who see themselves as engaged in a culture war with the left, who feel they've got to take down the bad old '***s'. People get branded alt-right if they're suspected of deliberately targeting left-wing or minority writers with as much bad publicity as they can muster. There's certainly plenty of that going on, but I don't know what the actual numbers are.
     
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    there is the problem....suspected..often with no more evidence than "wow that amy schumer special on netflix was shit"

    that is the problem. that is what i'm saying here...alt right is more than a culture war. and people that do engage in culture war aren't necessarily alt right...but they're labeled as such veeeeery falsely on the flimsiest of reasons. case in point: sitterson and vassagio. they people that are outspoken against them aren't always alt right...as i said it's a few sure..there always are. but it's not the majority yet they're being labeled as such

    hell i'm sure plenty of you are calling me alt right as you're reading this
     
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    Amy Schumer is definitely not funny. That needs to be said.
     
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    IDW Publishing
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    IDW, u so crazy.

    Or delusional.

    Or desperate.

    Never change.


    Honestly, the longer it all goes and the more they need to reset the continuity the more hilarious IDW pwning themselves with their own Hasbroverse is.
     
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    I can't make myself get this.

    I really wanted to see what we would see with Unicron in this. But I can't read the wizard stuff. I've no interest. I've enough stuff that I'm invested in including idw vstraight up tf titles. As I said before this was a back up strip in marvel UK back in the day for a while but I can't get behind this.

    I hope its great for those who want to read it I really do.
     
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    I'll be reading it, if only to point out how many stupid and unnecessary changes IDW makes to the Visionaries.

    Then I'll watch the cartoon again to cleanse the IDW shit off me.
     
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    Part of me wants to try it just because the writer and the artist aren't really guilty of bad publishing decisions. They're just hired and doing their job.

    But then another part of me reminds that purchasing the book would be rewarding the bad publishing decisions, so...
     
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    That's kinda my reason I'm not buying it either.

    I don't want to reward them lol
     
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    I'm pretty okay with a 2018 comic book being radically different than the 80s cartoon it is based on (which I never watched).

    I'm also pretty okay with mashing everything together in space.

    Earth is a pretty dumb place, though.
     
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    EXCLUSIVE: Transformers Vs. The Visionaries #1 by Magdalene Visaggio & Fico Ossio

    Does this have more pages? Think some of these pages have been seen without dialogue (and maybe colours) but I think I might enjoy the textless version more.

    In an attempt to be positive, Dreadlocks is my favourite because he's skipped the usual scrap (what are the rules on lost 's' again?) that everyone seems to be obligated to. Maybe if the Transformers were responsible for Old Home being destroyed or The Vs knew their reputation (Space Knights say hi) I'd feel better but I'm sick of ignorance and misunderstandings. I've already read the first 3 issues so why shouldn't I just skip to 5 to get the important plot stuff?
     
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    IDW could go MCU style with this modern redesign.

    Instead they were trying to be "smart" or "innovative" and went WB silly atempts at DC with it.

    Too bad it's hardly anywhere the Wonder Woman levels.


    All of this will be even more of a nameslap than the Bayverse was.
     
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    Visionaries was one of my favourite backup strips in the original UK TF comics, so I am looking forward to giving this a chance. I don’t like many of the other crossovers *generally* but as I did with them I’ll go into this with an open mind and see what happens. It could be a new fave strip, who knows?
     
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    It could be. But its just not Visionaries. These aren't the Knights of the Magical Light that caused you to be a fan in the first place. The characters here have as much in common with the old 80s cartoon and comic as the likes of TLK Hot Rod has with 80s Hot Rod. Or RotF Skids has with 80s Skids. And if bringing Visionaries back to capitalise on the nostalgia Transformers fans have who also used to be fans of Visionaries and it captures nothing that people have nostalgia about towards the Visionaries, I just don't see a point in bringing them back. This is Visionaries for people who don't know or don't care about 80s Visionaries.
     
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    Oh well, you never know, it might be good anyway. If it’s not I’ll stop reading it.
     
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    I urge you to go watch the first episode or at least these clips.



     
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    there's something extremely funny about Ironhide saying "this is incredibly unnecessary and we don't have time for this" on the first page of this comic that nobody asked for
     
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    While IDW’s larger scale crossovers haven’t always been the best, their smaller ones have been a lot of fun. As this one here seems more on the small scale, I’m hoping it’ll be less like Revolution and First Strike, and more like ROM vs. Transformers and Revolutionaries.
     
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    Very interesting; I do feel like I’ve missed something between the end of First Strike and the start of this though. The ending of First Strike seemed to imply they didn’t have a clue what was going on in the blocked off core.

    We don’t see too many people in the IDW verse (last group I can recall is the Space Knights back in Shining Armor) just dismissing Cybertronians as machines.
     
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    so what other forgotten hasbro properties that were failed cartoons in the 80's should get revived to fight transformers in 2018?
     
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