I'm really interested with topics like TF durability, strength etc. nowadays. Weird obsession of mine. I'm just't wondering, what's up with people saying TFs can't be harmed by human weaponary? I have read the entire Marvel series including the UK stuff. There was one instance where Swindle got one shotted by a tank, another where a group of Decepticons involving heavy hitters like Blitzwing and Octane were overhelmed by humans with tanks, helicopters in a military test area where they were clearly getting damaged. One other instance where Starscream had to hide from human jets. Another where a disoriented Cyclonus had to shoot a human jet missile so that the missile didn't hit him or in the G1 cartoon, there was one instance where Decepticons such as Starscream and Soundwave uad to run away from human jet missiles exploding around them. In the first episode, bullets were ineffective on them but they had to destroy the humans' cannons before the humans had a chance to shoot them with said cannons. In a recent IDW comic, Bugly was clearly getting damaged by WW2 plane bullets. Yes, Decepticons almost always beat humans but that's because they deal with the humans before the latter has a chance to fight back with heavy weapons. Yes, there are also instances where human weapons were ineffective such as the army shooting at Megatron for 15 minutes but he is one of the strongest TFs in existence, not exactly your average TF. There are other instances as well but I notice there are more times where they do receive damage than times where they don't.