Transformers The Movie 86: How would the story be different if Prime lived?

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  1. Excelsior Prime

    Excelsior Prime Autobot Leader

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    As much as I love TF:TM 86, which I saw at the tender age of 10, and which made a HUGE impression on me, I think it would've been much better if Optimus had not died.

    So, had Prime defeated Megatron and survived the battle himself, how might the story have been different?

    Since Unicron "upgraded" Megatron into Galvatron, and the Matrix upgraded Hot Rod, it would make since that the Matrix would upgrade Prime.

    How might this have changed the story? For the better or for the worse?

    Discuss!

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  2. Gingerchris

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    I suppose if Prime was going to live and be upgraded due to his unjuries for a latter scuffle with Galvatron I'd maybe have dropped the character of Ultra Magnus and just used his design as a Matrix activated battle exo for Optimus. Or something like that.
    At least Prime living would mean Hot Rod wouldn't be so important at the end. :) 
     
  3. FreshDebesh

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    Toywise they could just switch out the white Prime cab for the regular one. Just the trailer would be different.
     
  4. Gingerchris

    Gingerchris Telly-headed Tyrant

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    Yup. Lazy. :D 

    The white paintjob could always be some kind of nano repair paint Prime wears while he heals..
     
  5. omegagoalie

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    Like whenever KITT was being repaired:thumbs2:  Why not?
     
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    Indeed. White KITT was a cool thing to feature.

    I always felt Optimus getting sprayed that grey/white colour in The Return of Optimus Prime was a little nod to the white Magnus cab. At least it meant I had a reason to use the white cab figure for something other than just the inner part of Ultra Magnus or his alt mode.
     
  7. Shockscream

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    If Prime survived and underwent an upgrade, I'd imagine he issue a rallying speech to the Autobots and the Junkions and then would've helped with the killing of Unicron and throwing of Galvatron. Nothing more.
     
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    Why would the Matrix upgrade Prime? He's not the chosen one and already a Prime himself.
     
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    Wasn't the original idea for Prime to connect with the Matrix into Cybertron and transform the planet to fight Unicron?
     
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    A bit off topic, but I always wondered what would've happened if Optimus Prime had known that Laserbeak was spying on the Autobots on Moon Base One. While I think it would've been very un-Autobot-like of/out of character for him, I think it would've been badass if he'd loaded the bulk of their remaining energon supply onto the shuttle and then remote detonated it after the Decepticons boarded.

    To answer the original question, though: I think that things would've turned out much the same, but gone a lot more smoothly. Neither Ultra Magnus nor Rodimus Prime was ever as "take charge" a leader as Optimus Prime, so the attacks on Unicron would have been a lot more coordinated.
     
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    Unicron would have been killed about 40 minutes earlier...
     
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    For one thing, it would have made the last 45 minutes of the movie as entertaining as the first 45.

    Also, Season 3 wouldn't have had the "I don't wanna be the leader -Okay! I'll go ahead and be the leader" infinite loop that Rodimus was caught in.

    Interesting.
    I always thought the Matrix upgraded Orion into Optimus Prime.
    I wonder what the second upgrade would have been.
     
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    If Prime had lived, the story just would not have been as good.
     
  14. Spearhead

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    Nah, that was Alpha Trion in War Dawn :) 
     
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    We woulda had a Season 3/4 that didn't suck as much! Prime against Galvatron is such a better match than anything the Autobots had after he died. Hot Rodimus was nowhere near a worthy replacement. The series just felt empty after he was gone. Hell, even when Prime was a zombie it felt more real!
     
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    no Rodimus no Junkticons or Quintessons and no Megatron.
     
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    Too true. The three(?) episodes with Optimus in were the best ones in season three.
     
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    As much as I hate to say it, I doubt the movie would have left as big an impression if Prime had lived. The shock of Prime dying is what has made it so memorable and iconic. It ranks up there with Superman being killed by Doomsday.
     
  19. Lakanl

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    Hotrod wouldn't have been in the movie at all. He was introduced in the movie just so he could turn in to Rodimus. We still would have gotten Springer, Ultra Magnus, Arcee, Blurr, and Kup. But no Hotrod. It probably have been Bumblebee fishing with Daniel instead of Hotrod. Bumblebee would probably have gotten more of a central role in season 3.

    As for an upgrade like Megatron to Galvatron, I don't think he would have gotten one. Considering Optimus was wielding the Matrix to begin with, the best he would have done was open it and get fixed by the energy.
    Alternatively, if he had opened it, he might have been upgraded to Optimus Supreme. Something along those lines at least.

    But that's just my speculation.
     
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    Because Alpha Trion gave him the Matrix.
    Cause, you know, he was waiting for just the right 'bot who had an unnatural obsession with robots who could fly to lead all the Autobots.
     
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