Transformers: Robots in Disguise Dreadwind and Smokejumper

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  1. ScottyP

    ScottyP Got The Touch

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    Bought this MISB last week and just opened them up to review. Didn't see a thread for these bad boys, so here we go!

    Plugging with a link to my blog post on them: Roll Out: G2 Redux

    So, what did you guys think of them? Did anyone else have the sticker issue I did? Are the Beast Wars II/Robot Masters versions better looking than the two American Releases?
     
  2. Agent Adam

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    Could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure you are not supposed to just link to an outside review. Need to post it here.

    I thought it was a pretty good set, although the color scheme is kinda bland.
     
  3. ScottyP

    ScottyP Got The Touch

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    Yeah I couldn't find any guidelines on whether or not to link or crosspost content. I'd gladly crosspost or copy/paste content if that is what "should" be done, not trying to break any forum rules :) 

    I mainly wanted to start this thread to discuss the color scheme, that is, how does it compare to the others for this mold? I like it a little better than the regular G2, but don't own the BW2 or RM versions.
     
  4. Max Rawhide

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    Have this as well and am quite pleased with it. Also have the BW-II version and used to have the Robotmasters version, but I think I like the RiD best.

    Probably because of the green (I like green on TF's :)  )


    I agree that the color on the bottom of the wings, limbs and treads is really bland. I've often considered taking the silvergrey parts from the BW version and swapping them.


    Oh, and thanks for the warning about the stickers. Never applied them, but didn't know there was a problem with the pre-cut.
     
  5. Rewind

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    Great set of figures. I prefer the RM versions because I love the shade of blue they're molded in. Every time I pick up Gigant Bomb (Dreadwind) I'm amazed at how enormous it is in alt mode.
     
  6. ScottyP

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    I'm definitely considering the BW2 version, I think it goes for relatively cheap as well. Is the Robot Master blue significantly different from the G2 blue though?
     
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    It's pretty close - RM maybe a smidge darker. The biggest difference is that BW has sort a sort of bright blue arms and legs where those parts are more grey/blue-grey on the RM version. And the BW version has those sort of cruddy looking "camo" stickers. Also the cockpits are clear red plastic on the BW set and clear yellow on the RM.

    Click around under the "Notes" area and see for yourself.
    Gigant Bomb (2004) - Destron Assault Captain - www.tfu.info

    Hard to go wrong with any of the versions though, they're excellent figures, especially given their age.
     
  8. Philister

    Philister Teutonicons Rising!

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    For more pics, click on the image above

    Prelude: Dreadwind and Smokejumper are repaints of the G2 toys Dreadwing and Smokescreen. Not sure why they gave Dreadwing a different last letter, but I assume that Smokejumper was named thus so as not to confuse people, given that there was already a Smokescreen for sale in the Armada line that ran concurrently. Now, I have reviewed the G2 figures, as well as Robotmaster Gigant Bomb, but it’s been a while, so these guys get another go.

    Robot Mode (Dreadwind): Dreadwind cuts a massive, almost sumo-like figure, being almost as broad as he’s tall and just radiating strength and power. Despite his massive proportions, though, Dreadwind is highly articulate, featuring knee and elbow joints, a turning head, and just about everything you could ask for apart from wrist joints. He can pose in numerous ways and despite being somewhat top heavy, he has no problem holding his balance.

    His main weapon is the big cannon on his shoulder, which can move both sideways and upside down, no problem, and rapid-fires six grey missiles. If he needs additional firepower, he can easily use one of the smaller missile launchers Smokejumper carries (see below), though if six missiles won’t finish off his prey, I don’t think one or two more will do the trick, either. Anyway, Dreadwind can store his additional missiles on his wings, which fold onto his back in robot mode.

    Bottom line: still one of the most awesome-looking and best-articulated robots G2 ever produced and still holding up strong today. Two thumbs up.

    Alternate Mode (Dreadwind): Dreadwind is a triple-changer. His first and main alternate mode is a huge “Flying Wing”-style stealth bomber. His big shoulder cannon is now underneath the bomber and serves as front landing gear as well, while two additional wheels flip out from his folded-up legs. Like most jet-formers he has something of an underbelly, but given that he has that huge cannon hanging under him anyway, you barely notice the rest. In this mode Dreadwind can combine with Smokejumper into Dreadwing (notice the ‘g’ at the end) with the smaller jet sliding into the empty space on his back. All in all a pretty great-looking bomber mode, though it does look somewhat unfinished when Smokejumper isn’t linked up.

    His second alternate mode is a tank, though it’s basically just the bomber with the wings folded up, the gun flipping on top, and tank treads flipping out from his legs. It doesn’t look bad, mind you, but not really like any tank I’ve ever seen. A nice add-on for this figure, but clearly not the focus of it.

    Robot Mode (Smokejumper): Smokejumper is almost the polar opposite of Dreadwind, being small and lean where his partner is big and broad. At the time this figure was first released in G2 as Smokescreen, I do believe he might well have been the best-articulated Transformers ever, being able to pose in just about every way you’d care to imagine. His jet parts all fold away quite nicely, so he has almost no kibble to get in the way and while he has the standard cockpit-as-chest look of most jet-formers, he still makes it look awesome.

    Smokescreen carries to rifles / missile launchers as weapons, though personally I think he looks best with just one, which he can then hold two-handed (see picture 6 above). Looks pretty cool. So bottom line: a terrific robot. Cool look, great articulation, no flaws.

    Alternate Mode (Smokejumper): Smokejumper transforms into a very lean and streamlined looking arrow-style jet that doesn’t resemble any particular model I can think of. For those interested: yes, he can also assume a sort of gerwalk mode (basically a jet with arms and legs), not pictured above to make sure Harmony Gold doesn’t sue me. The jet features a working landing gear and Smokejumper’s two missile launchers can be fastened on the sides. They don’t actually ruin the jet’s aerodynamics, though it does look leaner without them, of course. Smokejumper’s jet mode can piggyback on Dreadwind’s bomber mode or fly separately. Either way, a pretty cool jet mode with only minimal underbelly and no flaws. Nicely done.

    Combined Mode: As I already mentioned above Smokejumper and Dreadwind combine in jet mode to form Dreadwing. It is also possible to combine Dreadwind and Smokejumper with Armada Galvatron (or Megatron for that matter) into MegaWing Galvatron. Haven’t tried it myself yet, but I will provide pictures when I get around to it.

    Remarks: Dreadwing and Smokescreen are a strong candidate for best toy in the entire Generation 2 line, so it’s no wonder they have been reissued numerous times. There was even a Megatron / Starscream combo based on these molds, but G2 was cancelled before more than a handful of these were released. Fast forward eight years and there is the Robots in Disguise series, which was padded out a lot at the end to help cover the vastly increased retail demand created by the successful Armada line. Thus a number of older figures (many G2 figures among them) were reissued as store exclusives in very Armada-looking packages, but under the RID banner.

    So bottom line: every Transformers fan should own at least one version of this excellent two-figure combo. And while I personally prefer the original G2 paint job, this one here is definitely worth getting as well.

    Rating: A-
     
  9. Altercron

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    I have these guys and love them. One of my favorite G2 molds
     
  10. Feralstorm

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    I like the greeny Dreadwind set pretty well, but I find it interesting that, with the exception of the tampo ' Con symbols and some stickers, there is no paint detail whatsoever on that version of the toy.
     
  11. Altercron

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    I just realized, mine are sans stickers. Dammit. Now I need to find those.
     
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    brr-icy G1 Collector

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    still need to pick a set of these molds up, probably will get the g2 versions though, i like the colours better
     
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    i'd buy the hell out of a box set of prime deluxe starscream as smokejumper and voyager dreadwing as G2/RID dreadwing. maybe remolded heads?
     

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