And I'm not talking how many toys, charachters, collection counts and cannon charachters vs. repaints. I mean: What do you estimate the entire population of TF's in the universe is? For example, there are 8 BILLION humans (in the known universe) A LARGE city on earth is only single digit millions. Since they never seem to die (execpt for war casualties) and live for a very long time (and rarely reproduce) Biology would point to a realitively low number. I suspect that there are only a few million TF's on Cybertron at the height of the Golden Age. Perhaps the population of Tokyo?