Toys R Us closing multiple US stores! 3-15-2018 - all stores expected to close

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  1. metalwar2010

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    Which sale is this for? The pre or post bankruptcy stores?

    These sales aren't helping them at all because of that confusion. No stores in my drive were closing and when they were announced they were closing due to the bankruptcy, I was already getting emails about ones started before that but TRU seems to be still treating them the same, even though the percentage off merchandise isn't.

    I agree to posted this. They aren't rushing on clearing stock, even though TRU made it sound like they were.
     
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    YMMV

    Toys''R''Us
     
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    Without any indication of where the commercial is filming, this has got to be the most useless advertisement ever.
     
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    Not true and All stores will not be closed by June 14th
     
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    Toys 'R' Us demise could spur merger boom in U.S. toy market
     
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    And LEGO still 15% off.
     
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    People went bat-nut crazy near me, and two weeks later it was as though business was normal with fully stocked shelves.

    30-50% off and looks like nothing changed. Except me buying a Cybertron Primus at 40% off instead of 10%...
     
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    Except the stuff that people want, that stuff will still be 5% off until the day hell freezes over. lol
     
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    How do you pump a company full of debt after taking it off the public stock market and yet there was no significant changes in their stores looks or services provided. Where did all the money go?
     
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    This was explored, in depth, when the bankruptcy was happening, but here's the answer in a nutshell.

    TRU had debt to start with. I think it was about a billion dollars. It was moved out of the public stock market and sold for several billion dollars to a group of buyers. But that group didn't actually have ALL of that money themselves. They borrowed several billion dollars to make up the difference, and then essentially handed that debt right over to the company that they just bought. Thus, TRU now had roughly six billion dollars in debt.

    Does that answer your question where all that money went? Even before one could think about improving services, billions of dollars were borrowed in the very act of buying the company.
     
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    Was it marked on the shelf as 40% or did you have to negotiate? My local TRU in Stockton had it listed for 30% off. $110 is still ridiculously high for the figure in my opinion but I'll consider getting one half off for $75.
     
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    Wait, I thought Grotesque was a HTS exclusive? Didn't know TRU would be carrying it. (not that I'm not pleased)
     
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    Not completely. Nobody buys something without a plan to make money. Since I saw no change in business operations to generate more revenue or new revenue streams or to differentiate themselves, I have to assume they had to have made money some other way through insanely stupid compensation without the public oversight of the SEC.
     
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    TRU and HTS exclusive like Arcee. Seems the stores that got grotesque REALLY got grotesque. Like this store now has 60+ apparently.
     
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    this sale was like few weeks old cuz I work at TRU in 48st. Long Island City even we don\'t have that much stuff since we started the liquidated back in April so 30-50% off been going on for few weeks already.
     
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    Nope, was tagged at 40% off.
    It appeared to be the last one, so I grabbed it. There were six total a week ago, but I guess they are being bought up now.
     
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    I hope this never happens. Merger's can be a very bad thing. Imagine Hasbro going out of business one day, we lose ALL those brands. Now imagine if Mattel merged with Hasbro and then later Hasbro goes out of business. BOOM! ALL major brands gone in an instant. In addition, it's bad enough we have a toy oligopoly. It would be worse if it were to become essentially a toy monopoly (no pun intended as Hasbro owns that, too). The lack of any major competition is one thing that can sink companies and/or drive down quality. One of the reasons why the 1980's was a golden decade for toys was the diversity of competing companies. Aside from Hasbro and Mattel, we had Kenner, Galoob, Milton Bradley, Playmates, Tonka, and LJN to name a few. So much new product was out then compared to now. Now we're lucky to get rehashes after rehashes of basically the same brands. Innovation is pretty much gone. The best thing that Mattel can do for itself and for customers is improve their quality. Same goes for Playmates and Bandai America. This is even more essential for NECA and Diamond Select Toys if they want to become viable competitors.

    There's still a strong market for toys, it's just changed. Either companies adapt and evolve or they die out. Same goes for TRU. They failed to correct themselves properly and found themselves dealing with the wrong investors. Now TRU is leaving a huge vacuum behind.
     
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    The Asian branch shows no signs of closing. I'm grateful it isn't closing, but 50% sales on the other hand... damn I envy you guys.
     
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    30% so far. Will keep adjusting per week though at 5% increments until all stock is gone.

    HTS and TRU exclusive like Arcee was. When the site closed, all excess leftover stock that hadn't sold on it went to stores. Which means a few lucky stores got Grotusque. Arcee was already sold out on the site though.

    On the toy manufacturing side you're somewhat right. Some smaller entities might group together to save each other, but the bigger ones likely won't. Hasbro's been trying for Mattel off and on for a bit, but it honestly would create too much of a monopoly to ever get signed off on. As funny as "Has-Mat" would be, it can't feasibly happen tbh. Even if someone above both bought both, they'd still keep them separate. It's smart business like a fail safe. Playmates and Bandai of America are also too ever present with their current licenses to entertain it, so the big 5 will remain intact. It's the smaller ones like random startups that can't get shelf-space because of the big 5 that may look to other smaller entities like Spinmaster and Jazzwares and Jada that have their foot in the door at major retailers to get their products on shelves somehow or better noticed. Limited retail space now means that the smaller entities are going to have a harder time getting to shelves. Not many are as lucky as Lanard that has a walmart exclusive deal. The big 5 can't buy each other though. They're literally the only thing keeping each other in check from becoming a monopoly. (Lego, Hasbro, Mattel, Bandai, Playmates. Though Mcfarlane toys is quickly getting a foot hold in to become a bigger name, but it's not quite there yet. Getting there though.)

    On the retail side though, there is kind of a weird joy that could be had from seeing the KB tin soldier riding Geof the giraffe as a new age logo. But that's also not a merger. That'd be if KB bought the mascot during the auction. It's already a "dead brand" and the corpse was stripped and is getting auctioned off. So it's nothing like two successful companies merging to become one entity to dominate the market even more in the whole "becoming too big to fail and dragging the entire market down with it if it does". It's kind of more akin to corporate grave robbing since one entity is already dead, and like birds of carrion other entities are flocking to it to peck it clean of anything useful.

    Thankfully that is another perk to the auctioning off assets. Someone could buy the TRU name, then bring the stores back without any of the debt it had. It's not likely this would happen, but it would sidestep the full debt issue.
     
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