i have been collecting these toys for a while, and i really like them as a whole. but some figures i have never been able to truly accept as transformers. it is likely that i don't because they are Japanese only releases or the aesthetic of the line just veers a bit too far from the main lines for me. best example off my head is Dai Atlas or the Zone line. It's not really a TF to me. i concede already that it is in TF canon so it isn't a debatable point. it bothers me that Kiss Players i can accept, but not something like Dai Atlas. In the american lines, i suppose the micromaster bases count. i consider them playsets more than figures. i owned Skyhopper, which i liked.) this doesn't mean that i wouldn't want Sonic Bomber or Dai Atlas, i just would have a hard time putting them into the middle of my TF collection. anyone else feel this way- about any other TFs?