To WB: Make a Superman movie by 2011 or get sued.

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  1. jdre_124

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    Fully story here.
    Warner Bros. wins 'Superman' case - Entertainment News, Film News, Media - Variety

    Let's hope we see Superman PUNCH something this time.
     
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    Everything.

    In reality thougth, they'll probably argue about in courts until then and then cut a deal. DC pretty much have the commercial high ground since they have the trademarks and international copywrite, all the S+S estates could do without them is publish comics based on whats seen in Action #1 in the US without writing Superman on the cover.
     
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    It'll be both an it'll get complicated. I believe DC may have bought some or all of Shuster's rights, but because of copyright law they may lose some. But what the heirs will own is the name Superman and the costume and likeness from Action Comics #1. The current symbol, other characters such as supergirl, krypto, etc are all still owned by DC. So if they tried to take Superman away from DC, he wouldn't be allowed to fly only jump tall buildings etc. As DC created those powers later. Also expect some settlement to happen. But you can bet the WB will get started on a Superman movie asap now.
     
  5. Tekkaman Blade

    Tekkaman Blade Professor of Animation

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    Double post
     
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    It is an absolute debacle that Superman, probably the most recognizable comic hero in the world, can't get a decent movie made, especially in this era where big comic movies most certainly rake in half a billion dollars+ everytime out.
     
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    Superman's just a really, really difficult superhero to bring to life, due to the nature of his powers. All the other superhero flicks worked because they were either just normal guys in suits(Batman and Iron Man), or people with powers that weren't too outrageous or hard to do for a live-action movie(Spider-Man, X-Men).

    Superman's just an extremely tricky hero to get right in live action.
     
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    Get Richard Donner back he did the two most successful ones. He wanted to do it for awhile too. If he could do it so well with the first two, imagine what he could do with todays special effects.
     
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    No reason a film couldn't power down Superman the way Byrne and Wolfman did in the mid-80s.
     
  10. Sol Fury

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    Yes, all they need to do is establish that Superman is invulnerable but can still be hurt.

    Look at the Animated series for example. Lots of things give him trouble and make for good drama in that. We could see some of that.

    Or just adapt the classic "Kryptonite no more" storyline, and have his powers reduced and throw in the sand monster too. Heck, that comic would make for a decent movie with some tweaking.
     
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    Oh for crying out loud guys...

    Why would anyone want to see a Superman movie where his powers suck? The only reason he didn't have his full cache of asskicking super awesomeness in the original movies was because the special effects would have cost a trillion dollars to do right back then. No more Donner and no more sappy love letters to the original films; this can be done and it can be done right. Strength, flight, speed, heat vision, x-ray - the whole nine yards.

    DC and WB just need to step up their interactions and make s*** happen. Their biggest problem has always been that they sit around and wait for money to appear in their laps. No one wants to get their hands dirty and do a little work. Marvel has been out producing DC in the film department for years now. (Granted, not always with the quality mark, but at this rate Marvel will run out of characters to convert to film before DC does their big guns.)

    I don't think we will ever get a great Superman movie, but the sad part is that it is possible. There isn't a single aspect of the mythos that can't be converted to film. With films like the Transformers series, the Matrix trilogy, Watchmen, 2012 and the X-Men franchise out there nothing is too difficult to adapt to film. How many times have we convincingly seen whole cities destroyed by asteroids or floods or alien invasions? How many seemingly impossible things have we seen our beloved heroes pull off in cinema in the past decade? Nothing is impossible anymore. It just takes take more work than I believe DC and WB are willing to put in.

    Hopefully, they'll prove me wrong though. If they do, I'll be there on opening day...might even spring for popcorn to boot. :) 
     
  12. Optimus Sledge

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    If Superman's going to work on the big screen, I don't want to see him piddling about defeating Lex Luthor, except maybe as an introduction sequence. Let's have a full on, city-shattering fight with Doomsday.
     
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    Who said suck? Just not infinately supreme. There's no need for him to push a planet, or travel near light speed, when lifting a train and flying faster than sound would do just as well. Really, invest in some of the post-Crisis Superman books - those written between Crisis and Doomsday. They were generally well written, had tight continuity, and generally knew how to balance Superman's powers with his adversaries.
     
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    The problem is Lex is a great schemer, but he almost always had some sort of muscle to give him cover (and later his own super-armor). OK, most of the time they were killer robots, but that would still be the most thrilling physical opponent to fight Clark in the films outside Zod.

    As for Doomsday... meh. He's like Venom - good image, shitty character. Besides giving us the Death of Superman story (which I don't think should be the next installment), he doesn't add much of interest.
     
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    Cool. So they will be forced to make rushed, swiftly written and compromised garbage. Superman's screen life is over. Just put Donner at the helm again, for crying out loud, WB saw that he has a following with Superman fans otherwise they would never have allowed his Director's Version of Superman II. Sorry, just my :2c:  .
     
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    Seriously, no more Lex Luthor. Doomsday, Darkseid, Brainiac......there's a bunch of baddies that can hurt Superman without weakening him. I maybe in a minority, but if the next superman movie turns out to be a popcorn action flick with badass fight scenes, I'll watch it a few times. The whole story could be: Superman strong, Doomsday stronger, fight, fight, fight, and I'll be happy.
     
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    Doomsday is to Superman as Bane is to Batman: created for one purpose and should never have been used again after that.
     
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    I totally agree. 100%.

    Give it a huge budget and let them go at it.
     
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    I don't want to see a rushed Superman movie either...

    STILL...if WB could at least find a decent director/writer/creative consultant team - and keep Jon Peters distracted for a year or so - they could probably recycle and repurpose a lot of the unused concepts and make some sense out of the scripts for the aborted films.

    Script-wise, really all you have to do is get a decent screenwriter to sit down for a few weeks and read a couple of really good Superman comics and watch a few episodes of S:TAS and then seriously doctor Smith's SUPERMAN LIVES script to fit into those parameters.

    In terms of production and costume design, again, you can still make use of what was designed but unused for the previous films - just repurpose and modify those designs into something more in the vein of the traditional Superman mythology. You don't need to have the Eradicator morph itself into a robotic Super-suit that can also transform into a one-man spaceship; it's overkill. And you can probably sell a lot more toys by giving Superman an assortment of cool villains to face (Luthor, Brainiac, Doomsday, Intergang, etc.) than you can just sticking solely to different screwball variations of his costume. And SUPERMAN LIVES, flawed a script as it is, actually would have allowed for this all in one film.
     
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    No origin story either, everyone knows it. Don't rewrite history either like Superman lives was planning(no see through suits or lexiacs) Just do it like a Bond movie, the movie starts out with an action sequence superman saves the day, cue title sequence. Then you start the real movie. This way you don't waste time retelling the same story and get straight to the new baddy and new story. Also there is a reason the comics work, so pick one of the better stories and use it as the basis.
     

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