Okay, where i live, we get frost but rarely snow that sticks, so i may be out of my element asking this. I wanna know something about people that live to the North of me in areas that get snow by the yard (like 3 feet in one night) and enough ice on the road to start a regulation hockey game. how can you guys, why do you guys drive so fast in that snow and ice? while me and my folks watch the Weather Channel and envy all the snow you get, we watch the footage of people skidding out of control at 50mph and wonder, how you-they- do that? Because we get sooo little of that, when we hear about ice on the road, we can't imagine doing 25mph anywhere. it spooks us that much. thanks for enlightening me on this one. and oh, drive safe up there.