To the 'Kill Arcee' crowd...

Discussion in 'Transformers Robots In Disguise / Prime Discussion' started by Snark, Mar 3, 2012.

  1. Snark

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    It's rare that I ever get worked up about transformers. Oftentimes, I've looked at even the most controversial aspects of the fandom and franchise with nothing more than amused indifference. However, the ridiculously vocal group advocating bloody murder on Arcee has elicited a more forceful response, probably because I feel as if I'm reading something darker than just fanboyish hate for a cartoon character (something I'll elaborate on later). So I have a question for the people who have been clamoring for Arcee related death, and in the interest of clarity, I will be as frank as possible:

    What the fuck is wrong with you people?

    Arcee is arguably the only female character this entire franchise who isn't a complete fucking joke, and definitely the only one since Beast Wars, and all you people want is to see her die horribly???

    I get it, she's a screen hogger. But you know what? So is Bulkhead. He's fronted as many episodes as Arcee, stormed the Nemesis before it was cool and briefly took on Megatron, and I don't see anyone clamoring for his gruesome demise! Similar thing for Bee, while he's backbenched in terms of the show, he's front and center in the toyline and in periphery material, but yet again no one's asking for him to die!

    Now the reason I'm actually getting worked up about this is simple, I can't help but feel some hint of sexism. The reason for that is not just for Arcee, but namely the other characters who people regularly call to be killed off; Miko and Airachnid.

    The board's tumultuous relationship with Miko is well documented, so I won't go into that. Airachnid has also largely been the most hated on the Cons side, and the one I most regularly see people call for death.

    Really, the only female character I don't see people clamoring to kill off is June! And that's part of why I feel deeply uncomfortable about the whole affair. You people seem to want every assertive female character dead, with the only one left alive being the passive caretaker.

    Seriously guys, Transformers has always been a fucking joke when it to portraying its female cast. This is its first and greatest chance to change it. Don't turn that into another joke.

    P.S Kaijuguy, while I realize you're seemingly under a contractual obligation to reply to any post that so much as mentions Arcee, use every available restraint to stop yourself. Your ridiculous white knighting would destroy any legitimacy this thread might have.
     
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  3. seekerblackout

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    Let's hope Kaijuguy, Sideways77 and SPLIT LIP don't find this thread.
     
  4. Sideways77

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    I don't want her to die, but I don't like her.

    Why?

    She's always in your face, gets the better lines and fight scenes, gets the most development, while leaving the others in the dirt.

    I am not looking for an argument. If you don't like my post, deal with it.
     
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    One character at a time. We get a Bumblebee episode next week.
     
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    Honestly, I believe the "Kill Arcee" contingent is more a reaction to TFP Arcee fans, than it is to the character.

    I mean, I really think that is at least 80% of it.
     
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    I'm glad Bee's getting some attention, but about 75% of season 1 was Arcee.

    I wasn't a fan of it.
     
  8. humblebot

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    Fanboys are overwhelmingly sexist, news at 11.
     
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    D:

    Who wants Airachnid dead!?! Without a doubt, alongside Soundwave, the best Decepticon in the show.
     
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    Clearly you must be behind. Threads on this site staying on topic? HA.
     
  11. Snark

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    That's the thing though, it wasn't.

    Bulkhead fronted just as many episodes in season 1 as Arcee. Hell, after the five part premier, Arcee shifted to the background until Predatory (arguably Speed Metal, but that was more a Jack/Knockout episode), which was only a few episodes short of halfway through the season.
     
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    Gotta admit, I'm getting creeped out by those posts too. I remember one guy on here even wished for Miko to start her menstrual cycle so she'd bleed out. Totally uncalled for, and it looks like it must've been deleted, thankfully.

    I just...why? And why aren't Bulkhead and/or Starscream getting the same amount of grisly I-wish-they-would-die fantasies written about him if these same people are so hung up on the screentime thing? Or if it's the white-knighting fans they have a problem with, why not take the issue up with them?

    Hey, I don't like Airachnid and I wouldn't mind if she was gone from the show, but like any normal person I don't write gory murder scenarios wishing her dead every time she's brought up.

    To be honest, it's one of the reasons I've been avoiding this forum section. The place is starting to stink of some weird sexism and rampant explosive negativity.
     
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    It just seems like the show is disproportionally focused on Arcee because she's the only well-rounded character in the entire series. All the others are one-note archetypes without any outstanding strengths or flaws. (Optimus is The Virtuous Leader, Ratchet is The Cranky Old Guy [and The Dispenser of Exposition, when the writers really feel like flexing their muscles], Bulkhead is the Affable Big Lug, and Bumblebee...beeps. And so on.)

    I guess the boys-only club around here doesn't like that a girl is the only one getting real character development.
     
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    Inb4 true Acree fanboys.

    I think the reason people think she deserves to die is she throws caution to the wind and he only excuse is "My partners are DEEEEAAADD!!" I don't dislike her because she uses up screen time (although I wouldn't mind it if she shared the spotlight with anyone other than Bulkhead), or because she's a chick (really? that's your excuse?). Besides, if the writers didn't write themselves into corners with these characters then we may not be "clamoring for [their] death".

    Let me just put it in perspective:
    Miko is an adrenaline junkie and is such an inbucile because she can't comprehend the simple command of "stay the f*ck put".
    Airachnid is basically a femme version of Starscream and stole his spot. I think that's why people hate her, I honestly don't mind her.
    Arcee is just as bad as Miko at times. Whenever Airachnid's involved or someone hints at Cliff's death she's chomping at the bit trying to find some way to get a quick revenge. And let's not forget her haphazard jumping through the ground bridge in Orion Pax p2. Some people may argue that she said "Optimus would've done the same", when she never said that. She said "If any of us were in that situation, Optimus would find a way". I think people paraphrased that a little too drastically; the big O would never go out on a whim like that knowing the ramifications of it should he fail.

    While I think the character has much potential and I really like that we finally have a strong femme in the main cast, she really needs to get past her damn partners. I mean Tailgate died possibly eons ago!
     
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    arcee is best female autobot in tf prime
     
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    Even SPLIT LIP and Sideways77 would agree on that.
     
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    Yes, because there is an entire stockpile of femme Autobots that we've been introduced to so far.
     
  18. Snark

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    I think that's what got me fired up enough to start this thread. I'm used to the Prime forum alternating between weird murder fantasies and implied robo porn (which I had admittedly been party to), but watching that shit spill out into other forums such as that recent Insecticon news thread was the straw that broke the camel's back.
     
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    Skywarp2413, you don't think it's suspect that people have these elaborate reasons for JUST the female characters? You can think up flaws for any character in the show if you try hard enough, it's the fact they picked out the women exclusively that is extremely weird and iffy.
     
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    Because she's the only female Autobot in Prime.

    As for best female Autobot, still no. I like the Movie 1 comic book Arcee better. Just read Reign of Starscream. That'll teach you why I like that version better.
     

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