This is who Soundwave is (spoilers)

Discussion in 'Transformers Robots In Disguise / Prime Discussion' started by LordScreamer, Mar 4, 2012.

  1. LordScreamer

    LordScreamer Well-Known Member

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    Now I know what some of you are thinking. What is this avatar-less newbie doing posting a topic that references that Soundwave isn't Soundwave? Well, read through and you will see that I might just have Soundwave figured out.
    Oh and I said spoilers because I have reason to prove that this "speculation" could be true.








    Soundwave is the main overall villain in Prime. Not Megatron. As far as Megatron is concerned, they are partners and Soundwave serves no one. Soundwave will sometimes do what Megatron tells him because they work hand-in hand. Soundwave can't do the same thing back because he can't risk speaking.
    Here, this may make more sense:
    -In the Unicron arc, Ratchet explains that both Megatron and Soundwave were the forerunners of the rebellion that started the war. Whoa! Why didn't he just say Megatron and new followers? Why specifically mention Soundwave? Here's why: The writers are hinting something. Soundwave has more to do with the outbreak of the war than we think. Soundwave is Palpatine and Megatron is Anakin/Vader.
    -Soundwave (screen-face aside) has the Decepticon symbol as his head. He is also the iconic purple. All the Deceptidrones are similar in design to him and his past incarnations. The Insecticons are linked to his system in that he can sense their activation from Cybertron. They are linked. It is likely that Soundwave spawns these minions. This how Soundwave acquires intel so well. They are all his "eyes" and "ears".
    -Soundwave rarely ever leaves the ship.....which is swarming with his spawns.
    -Ratchet recently said that no one is better at building space bridges than the Decepticons. Whoa, wait a minute! Who are the brains on the Decepticon side that could do that? Not Knockout. He cares more about his paint than to be a top-notch doctor like Ratchet. Can't be Megatron. He is all about domination. Arachnid and Breakdown don't specialize here and the drones are just stupid drones. That just leaves Soundwave and why wouldn't it be him. Observant, calculative, and sinister. Soundwave is a walking database linked to more databases. Why wouldn't he be able to pull space bridge plans out of his butt?
    -Ever wonder why Soundwave never beat Starscream around like he did with Arachnid? The reason is simple. Starscream could substitute for Megatron well because they both have common goals. Starscream is just weaker and more cowardly version of Megatron. Another asset. Another tool. Arachnid on the other hand......she is doesn't entirely care about the Decepticons. She only wants to fullfill her hobbies and her history as an ex-con doesn't look good. When Arachnid was planning to leave Earth for her own needy wants, Soundwave couldn't let that happen. He had to make this bitch realize who is in charge and what HE WANTS. She is nothing more than obstacle to piss him off.
    -Megatron says "I should have killed Starscream when I had the chance" to Soundwave. Why would he tell Soundwave that? Because he is sorry to Soundwave. Starscream delayed Project Iacon and it's mostly Megatron's fault. It was also Soundwave's fault as well because Starscream convinced Soundwave he was loyal straight to his face and recorded it. Now Soundwave sees Starscream as major pain in his plans and it all started with Arachnid since she left him behind. Another reason for Soundwave to absolutely hate Arachnid.
    -Soundwave makes himself seem like a pawn of Megatron's as a way of hiding the truth that he is behind everything. It is clear that Soundwave wants to continue his operations of Earth. Megatron is a Mask.
    -Soundwave is a one-of-a-kind bot. Him and the drones are the only ones without optics. There is something unnatural about them.
    -Since Soundwave wants to be situated near Earth, he likely wants Prime dead because it is likely that only a "Prime" can stop him. Or it is likely that Optimus is just too dangerous for Soundwave's cause cuz he is the last Prime. Either way, it seems Soundwave doesn't want there to be a Prime alive. He would've killed Optimus after project Iacon if that was what you were wondering.
    -The "encryptions" that Optimus was decoding may be what Soundwave needs desiphered for his master plan (whatever that and Iacon might be).
    -Megatron never bought any of Starscream's lies about Soundwave. Then again, that's a given.
    -Stealth fighter? Definitely hiding something.....

    Bottom Line: The writers of this show setup a genius and elaborate plan where Soundwave is behind everything. Who would have thought?

    Nonetheless, this is still speculation. More importantly, what do you think?
     
  2. walnuts

    walnuts Well-Known Member

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    Nice story.
     
  3. Scrapmaker

    Scrapmaker Miniautoquintessoboticon

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    Interesting speculation.....but it's not something the writers would go for.
     
  4. skylinezan

    skylinezan Well-Known Member

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    very interesting idea indeed. I totally love it.

    I'm speechless right now. thank you for that idea. when I go back, I'm gonna watch the episodes mentioned here in a different light.

    THANK YOU for sharing! THANK YOU!
     
  5. Jive Guru

    Jive Guru Professional Amateur

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    Interesting to be sure, but don't start believing your own ideas should be canon. You'll be disappointed when they don't come to pass, like some others have been recently.
     
  6. Atlas42

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    cool story, bro.

    but seriously, tfw 2005 has better writers than the show.
     
  7. Mako Crab

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    Interesting theory. I like it. If I recall, didn't IDW have Soundwave performing something of the same role in Megatron: Origin? He wasn't necessarily the brains behind the operation, but he nudged Megatron in the direction he wanted.

    Nice first post. :) 
     
  8. kaijuguy19

    kaijuguy19 Keyblade Wielder

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    That's true. Actually I've read a Transformers Moesaic about that that explores what if Soundwave is the true mastermind.

    Intresting and creative theory the OP has there. It makes even more sense that his face is the Decepticon logo. If that is indeed true it'll be a major twist!
     
  9. bignick1693

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    I can see this happening. It looks like soundwave has many plans up his sleeve or under his frame whatever robots have.
     
  10. HoosierDaddy

    HoosierDaddy Decepticon. I'm no hero

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    That is interesting but don't forget, Starscream really is the scientific brains behind the decepticons. He is the one who built the spacebridge to the point the others where able to finish it without him. The fact that Starscream is such a good scientist is probably the real reason Megs (and maybe Soundwave too) let Screamer stick around for so long.
     
  11. PRIME TIME 89

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    This is a cool idea! I hope some of the writers for prime are reading this...

    Oh by the way...Its "STARSCREAM, not "STARCREAM.
    Cream the rabbit should have nothing to do with Transformers...
     
  12. Dinobot Snarl

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    I really like this idea, Its funny though did they ever explain where all the drones came from, there's an episode there waiting to be made.
     
  13. LordScreamer

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    More to add

    Ah, that's true. Starscream is a scientist. However, if what I say is true, then it is also likely that Starscream was yet another "mask" in that the brilliance of the spacebridge be put under the credit of the cowardly and weak Starscream rather than the secret mastermind that is Soundwave.
    Soundwave needs to conceal himself from being targeted or else everybody will have their eye on the quiet one with all the plans, and that could create issues.
    "What? They finished it without me?!" -Starscream
    Now how would they be able to do that without Starscream? :D 

    I left some things out btw:
    -Another reason why the drones may be linked to Soundwave is because, according to Starscream when Megatron was about to execute him, they follow orders from him. How can you follow orders from a bot that doesn't speak?
    -It is possible that Soundwave does speak to Megatron. He just does it offscreen.
    -Soundwave let Starscream do all his fun throughout Season 1 because Soundwave wanted to stay on Earth and he didn't want to remove Starscream. If he removed Starscream, then he would have to take over because none others are fit for the role. Knockout is a doctor and often neglects his responsibilities. Breakdown is rash and wouldn't know what to do. Soundwave can't take over because he will be the poster boy everyone has their eye on.
    -The reason the drones have minds of their own is because Soundwave can't puppeteer them all the time. Though Soundwave may seem like a super computing "prop", he is still a bot with limitations and his own capacities.

    My theory as to what Soundwave's origins are: He is a virus. He created his own Cybertronian body equipped with everything he needs to manipulate the playing field. Viruses destroy tech. That is why Cybertron is ruined. Cybertron's ruination may very well have been Soundwave's dream.

    The writers: I don't know. They seem like good writers to me. They are certainly better writers than most kid shows. Writers tend to dismay characterization and ignore what fans want. The plots are usually very weak. I barely see that in Transformers Prime. Which is why I am still watching.
    I'm positive about my Soundwave theory. I don't think it's hard to believe that the writers would do this and I wouldn't post this as a topic if it was just me writing a fan-fic.
     
  14. LordScreamer

    LordScreamer Well-Known Member

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    Thanks and thanks to everyone else as well. :D 

    I can't believe I called him Starcream 5 times in that post.:eek:  I'll have to change that.....

    Edit: Fixed :D 
     
  15. Joalro

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    To be honest I've been thinking somewhat on the same lines as you. It does appear as though everyone fears Soundwave, and I was wondering if Megatron himself feared Soundwave. There are so few scenes with the two of them, part of me wondered.

    However, I'm slowly losing hope that the writers will reveal some big revelation like that
     
  16. bumblebot98

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    Interesting theory.

    I would like to see something along the lines of this get incorporated into the show. Or maybe they already planned this from season 1?!
     
  17. Rodimal Magnus

    Rodimal Magnus A Touch of Destiny

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    I'm pretty sure its Iacon not Iacom.

    Cool theory. I was thinking of something along the same lines.
     
  18. LordScreamer

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    Yeah, just fixed it.:eek:  I'm making spelling mistakes all over the place....

    @Bumblebot: It wouldn't be suprising (by this point) if they did plan this from the very beginning.
    Ever notice how the characters in Prime have this new justice done to their character? The writers are putting alot of thought into them. This is what I mean:
    Optimus: We have seen him before he was a Prime and how he was. It now makes sense why he was ever chosen in the first place. I don't recall other generations tackling this (screen-wise).
    Megatron: These boards are flooded with peole saying that this is the best Megatron. Pretty self-explanatory.
    Starscream: As a Screamer fan, I have to admit this is the most definitive Starscream ever portrayed. His appearance reflects his character (unlike G1, where he looked a Gundam/Chick Magnet) and his colors are reminiscent of past generations (red, blue, white, silver, purple). His voice sometimes changes between low and high, so he has all generations covered. This Starscream is also a coward and is weak but is also cunning, skilled, badass, leader-like, and above all......deceiving.
    Arcee: She isn't that "G1 stereotype" of the female race....
    Bulkhead: They made him competant as a fighter.
    Bumblebee: .....this might require thinking.......
    Breakdown: Never heard of him. Never starred before.
    Knockout: Never heard of him. Never starred before.
    Arachnid: New character, right?
    Skyquake: Never heard of him, never starred before.
    Unicron: They made him seem godly like he should be. He is practically robot-satan. Though he is not like his past generations....his minions resume his classic design. That way, all our characters can beat Unicron without actually beating Unicron.:D 
    Wheeljack: Oh come on! This is screaming fan service right here!
    Cliffjumper: They made him separate from Bumblebee and had him voiced by a celebrity. He's not a repaint anymore!
    Insecticon: It's difficult to care about the insecticons because they are insects and their G1 forms had some unaudible voices. You would think that they would be small but "Prime" really gave us something else. Now the Insecticons are like the biggest Decepticons in the show and they turn into awesomesauce giant Horned Beetles! With visors and an animal instinct in both forms!

    I could keep going but this post is big enough. Now what was my point?
    .......oh yeah.:p  The point was that Soundwave has alot more emphasis in this show because the past generations did little justice to his character. The past generations may have made him cool but he never really played a drastic role where he mattered entirely that people would NEED to know his name.
    However, if Soundwave is the main villain, then that will spike his popularity and also influence future generations to expand on him even more.
    He has always been a cool character. Perhaps it's time he has joined the ranks of Optimus, Megatron, Starscream, and Bumblebee.
     
  19. UnicronFTW

    UnicronFTW Don't blink.

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    Holy shit you might be right.
     
  20. Ironhide1706

    Ironhide1706 Elessar Telcontar

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    I feared a Hazekiah thread, instead I got the best thread I've seen this year. I applaud you OP, an excellent theory. Let's hope it comes to pass.
     

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