The worst idea/premise on Transformers with best results and vice versa

Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by Fez Findie, Jul 19, 2008.

  1. Fez Findie

    Fez Findie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2006
    Posts:
    14,871
    Trophy Points:
    257
    Likes:
    +166
    As if in ideas that seemed to be really bad on paper but were executed so well that you wouldn't believe that it was a bad idea in the first place and then of course ideas that seemed to have potential but got totally wasted. Whether on toyline, storyline or characters or anything. Just thought it'd be some nice thought for food.
     
  2. Shark Jumper

    Shark Jumper さあ、お前の罪を数えろ

    Joined:
    May 25, 2008
    Posts:
    6,136
    News Credits:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Likes:
    +18
    Ebay:
    Energon Powerlinx, enough said.
     
  3. GladiatorPrime

    GladiatorPrime working on Rampage P2-V2

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2006
    Posts:
    1,985
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +0
    I second that!
     
  4. Takara_destron

    Takara_destron Mainly lurking these days

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2007
    Posts:
    7,518
    Trophy Points:
    221
    Likes:
    +0
    Ebay:
    The most powerful energy source in the universe being childrens' belief in goodness (or something along those lines).
    I like RID and all but seriously what the hell?

    Last few episodes are among my favourite in the series though.
     
  5. Chris McFeely

    Chris McFeely Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2004
    Posts:
    4,480
    News Credits:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +56
    Ooh, I think I'd have to vote for Ratbat as Decepticon leader in the Marvel Comics. You hear that as a concept, and it's like "Whu-fuh? But... he's a cassette! What the hell? How does that work? Is Soundwave taking orders from one of the guys he keeps in his chest?!" But in practise, it was one of Budiansky's master-strokes on the series, and worked remarkably well. Ratbat was one of the most (if not THE most) effective Decepticon leaders in the series.
     
  6. Optimus Sledge

    Optimus Sledge Yar har fiddle di dee

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2008
    Posts:
    7,925
    Trophy Points:
    176
    Likes:
    +0
    Mini-cons. On paper it sounded awesome, different mini-cons unlocking different powers. In practice it meant you plugged a mini-con in and a missile launcher flipped into place. Very disappointing.
     
  7. Chaos Sorcerer

    Chaos Sorcerer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2007
    Posts:
    129
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Likes:
    +0
    Concepts that were bad that were executed brilliantly? Here's one.

    Beast modes.

    When I first heard of TFs turning into gorillias and cats and whatnot, i was pretty much aghast.. transformers are supposed to be trucks and jets. Horrible, horrible idea.

    Then I actually had the pleasure of watching Beast Wars, and it goes without saying how fantastic the execution of the idea was. From a design/toy standpoint, I still prefer them turning into vehicles, but BW's still the gold standard for execution of storyline.

    Good ideas executed badly? Transformers Universe. The first time around. Great concept.. expand the rosters, give interesting characters spotlights, good way to reuse some molds.. except for the horrible choices of color, character and distribution.

    Here's hoping that version 2.0 fixes all that.
     
  8. Fez Findie

    Fez Findie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2006
    Posts:
    14,871
    Trophy Points:
    257
    Likes:
    +166
    Not to mention of course a plausible explanation on it at the first place, with the synth-organic parts protecting them from the energon fields and such.
     
  9. Optimus Sledge

    Optimus Sledge Yar har fiddle di dee

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2008
    Posts:
    7,925
    Trophy Points:
    176
    Likes:
    +0
    See, that never worked for me. That always made about as much sense as a human having to wear a radiation suit because they're walking through a supermarket.
     
  10. shroobmaster

    shroobmaster Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Posts:
    13,629
    News Credits:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    201
    Likes:
    +30
    Megatron turning into a batmobile.

    His toy is still awesome no matter how un-Megatronish.
     
  11. seeker311

    seeker311 The Collector

    Joined:
    May 14, 2007
    Posts:
    9,188
    News Credits:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Likes:
    +28
    Beast Wars: lets step away from the base idea of robots turning into regular machines and say that somehow they can go from metal skin to fur!
     
  12. Geminii

    Geminii Toyetic multiformophile

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2003
    Posts:
    984
    Trophy Points:
    146
    Likes:
    +0
    More like a human having to wear overalls if they're wading through knee-deep fertilizer on a farm, or having to wear protective ear coverings/noseplugs because the freezers keeping the supermarket food fresh are running at ten zillion percent capacity, roaring the motors while pumping ozone and burning PCB smoke into the air.
     
  13. AutobotMarine

    AutobotMarine Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2007
    Posts:
    1,499
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +0
    Ebay:
    Pretenders.....

    Oh wait... :sly2: 
     
  14. Backscatter

    Backscatter Autobot Brainmaster TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2003
    Posts:
    6,774
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    241
    Likes:
    +3

    Actually, I thought Pretenders worked quite well in Masterforce. Not so great in Marvel Comics. MF, great idea, but the figures weren't over the top, with the exception of Metalhawk. :D 
     
  15. IhsantheCursed

    IhsantheCursed Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2008
    Posts:
    789
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Likes:
    +0
    Animated. The show. :) 
     
  16. Backpack

    Backpack Scattershot who?

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2002
    Posts:
    3,118
    Trophy Points:
    202
    Likes:
    +7
    bad on paper:

    For the movie, I thought taking away Bumblebee's ability to speak was the worst cheezy idea they could have come up with. To me it took away any chance of developing his character. As it turned out it was fantastic and I was sort of shocked.... because I was so sure I was right about it being such a bad idea.

    An animated series and toy line that is simplified and very cartoony. The very idea of a TF series done in the style of Teen Titians seemed like a bad move. It would have been at any time, but after a live action movie with so much detail it was doubly bad. Then there was word that the small cast of Autobots would be fighting humans a lot of the time... and it just sounded horrible. Yet, after seeing the live action film I had a much more open mind to ideas that sound bad and actually almost assumed that Animated would be fantastic..... and it turned out to be just that.
     
  17. Ravenxl7

    Ravenxl7 W.A.F.F.L.E.O.

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2006
    Posts:
    22,059
    News Credits:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +26
    Agreed. As a concept it's quite good, but when it was executed, it was extremely poor. Ruined what could have been some really great TF figures.
     
  18. Optimus Sledge

    Optimus Sledge Yar har fiddle di dee

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2008
    Posts:
    7,925
    Trophy Points:
    176
    Likes:
    +0
    How? Energon is the TF equivalent of food. It's not the equivalent of freezers.
     
  19. optimus major

    optimus major Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2007
    Posts:
    1,674
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +1
    this....masterforce is what made me fall in love with the pretenders and i want a f'in metalhawk damnit :lol 
     
  20. optimus major

    optimus major Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2007
    Posts:
    1,674
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +1
    this man speaks the truth....the concept of animated originally sounded horriible but it turned out to be the greatest thing since beast wars :p 
     

Share This Page