The Whole Plate: Transformers and Film Studies

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by BattleUpSaber, Apr 29, 2017.

  1. G1DeadEnd

    G1DeadEnd Bring on 5, 6, 7 & 8!

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    I mean, there is a bunch of examples, that were not included in her video, from the Michael Bay movies, that go against her theory (or agenda).
    Ratchet putting his hand on Bee's shoulder at the end of DOTM. Prime, and Sentinel's relationship (even after he betrayed the Autobots, the two still cared about each other). Ironhide & Sideswipe working together. Autobots being sad about Jazz. The twins, really worrying about each other, when Devastator seemed to eat one of them, and then working together. Megatron complementing Soundwave, and Laserbeak. Prime caring about Megatron, after he was killed in TF1. There are more examples, but I'm sure you all get my point.
     
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    Some good small examples. However, this ties into another flaw with the series as a lot of these relationships are rarely visible in more than one movie because of how expendable some of the cast are. Sentinel dies after one movie, the Twins don't appear after ROTF, Soundwave dies with limited interaction with Megatron, Ironhide dies with limited interaction with Sideswipe. Optimus and Bumblebee is one of the few good relationships that is visible throughout the series. One of the benefits of having a small cast is it allows you jungle relationships between characters more easily across multiple films.
     
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    Galvatron II I can type whatever here?

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    Also, what agenda? That it'd be hard to come up with a queer reading of these movies?

    Why is anything to do with social sciences met with dismissal and suspicion on the Internet
     
  4. G1DeadEnd

    G1DeadEnd Bring on 5, 6, 7 & 8!

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    That's true! Hot Rod commending Squeeks in TLK, and Cogman admitting how awesome his human master was are also some of these small examples of good relationships. Hound praising Cade and bonding with Izzy are other examples. I mean, one can point out all of the negative, or all of the positive.
     
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  5. Autobot Burnout

    Autobot Burnout Anthony Hopkins with a submachine gun. 'Nuff said!

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    Because TLK is such a shining example of how to write a movie.

    That was sarcasm. I ain't using blue text because that's a stupid fucking trend that doesn't even work because nobody thinks of the colorblind.
     
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    Some people like the 4th of July for the beer & fireworks.
    Other people like to think about what it all means.

    Neither side is wrong. But each tends to think the other misses the point. A nice combo of each side is where I like to keep it. These deep dive analysis are good food for thought, but I still like to have mindless fun with these popcorn flicks too.
     
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  8. Necrisha

    Necrisha Creative, vindictive-possibly a deception.

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    Purposefully breaking or twisting one of the story elements and seeing if the rest holds up is a fun thought experiment too.
     
  9. BattleUpSaber

    BattleUpSaber Result.

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  10. JimTheJIRRMan

    JimTheJIRRMan Droop Snoot

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    Oooo, look at Lindsay with the 3P Screamer lol. I love seeing pillars of youtube communities have a deeper than surface level interest in Transformers collecting.
     
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  11. The Mad Demobot

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    That's a good one.
    AND she's got Mtmte! Odd time to have it now that its ending but better than nothing lol. The comics fame is spreading and I love it. Wonder if she'll do a video on it comparing them to the films on how they can learn from them.
     
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    Man, Megatron must be a fan of Ardono considering their feelings on Jazz.
     
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    Gordon_4 The Big Engine

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    Hold the phone, year late that I am, but you have a grandson? Jesus Christ where is time going?
     
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    Yup. Got one. Time flies, doesn’t it?
    He’a almost 2 now
     
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    It is a notable divergence from the brand's history that the military is presented as not only highly capable but also on the side of right in these matters. All earlier government/military intervention was at best ineffective and often a hindrance. Except for like, GI Joe crossovers. But in the movies, even when they turn on the Autobots it's really just government spooks and ill defined black ops groups. The weak willed, idiotic bureaucrats are the real problem. They just get in the way of effectively hunting down and terminating those evil aliens hiding here.

    These movies must seem strange to the rest of the world
     
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    Chez Lindsey gets on my nerves. This woman just pulls shit straight out her ass and try’s to add substance to a series that doesn’t really have any substance to begin with. She make things up that's not true and really her claims don’t make any sense when you sit down and really think about.

    I’ve seen her entire series so I know what I’m talking. Here’s and example: COGMAN IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING A GAY CHARACTER. Cogman’s character is more of the opposite, he’s almost completely insane, has a murderous testosterone like attitude, and really doesn’t seem to like he’s job that much. Well that’s what I got from watching the movie anyway.

    What do you expect from someone like Michael Bay who couldn’t make a fucking movie even if he had a gun pointed towards his head and was told to make a good movie, he’d still make a shit movie because he’s not a good director he’s a terrible one. We’re going to keep getting terrible movies from this man as long as he lives.

    There’s no deep meaning in these movies what so ever. They’re the movie equivalent to junk food. They’re not good and there nothing more than a guilty pleasure for two hours. So can we please stop trying to take this movie series so seriously? If the producer’s or director cared we’d get good movies but, that’s just not the case.
     
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    SPLIT LIP AKA Beve Stuscemi

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    I liked this series back when it was analyzing the movies as movies with a critical perspective. Because even for how bad they were, it was nice to see them intricately explained just how bad they were. Like an autopsy. You know it's dead, you're not going to change it, but it's fascinating to find out every facet of the expiration yourself.

    Now it's just tedious and pointlessly political. :/
     
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  18. KingMegatron632

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    This.

    Also, thank you.
     
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    The series is still viewing the films from a critical perspective. In each video, she’s viewing them from a different critical lens (feminist, psychoanalytic, marxist, etc.). This is basic literary theory.
     
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    bellpeppers A Meat Popsicle

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    She could watch a porno and over analyze it- and still get it wrong.
     

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