the whole freezing thing

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  1. thekryle

    thekryle Well-Known Member

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    Isn't it a little odd megs and bumblebee were put into paralysis on earth but are bale to fly threw the cold of space unharmed?
     
  2. christopher

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    Isn't it strange transformers can enter an atmosphere and smash into the ground and can't survive incindiary rounds?
     
  3. UnnamedHunter

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    First time post....

    Um, why question accurate laws of physics?

    They're giant sentient robots, don't question the physics.
     
  4. Turbocharger

    Turbocharger We should get more letter

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    It's sometimes best to just not ask questions about really obvious things when it comes to movies.
     
  5. NGW

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    Because they were in a sort of shell (or entry mode, but it looked like Prime climbed out of some shell thing) that protected them from the heat.
     
  6. Valkysas

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    yes, their atompsheric entry modes are coated with something to protect them from the heat.

    as for megatron, who didnt come to earth in an entry mode, his alt mode is likely designed for space travel. water was his issue, I believe. he's frozen in ice. which means that he landed in water. ice-cold water that screws up electronics bad.
     
  7. nuopus

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    Well. For one thing, in the cold of space there is no moisture. It is cold yes, but those robots are probably built to take the cold. I doubt there is moisture on cybertron. It is much different when you put moisture AND cold into the mix. There is lots of moisture here on earth.
     
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    According to the Transformers Movie Guide Book:


    "Protoforms are supremely resistant to damage, capable of withstanding extremes of heat and cold and hypervelocity impact on any type of planet surface."

    :D 
     
  9. nuopus

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    No. Because their protoforms are a protective shell. THAT, and the shape of the object and the angle of decent play a HUGE role. Ask yourself this ... How can a US made balistic warhead that does not detonate be found in tact after landing with such velocity, yet are made of materials that could not stop a round from a pidly ak47? The angle of impact survives the warhead. They did not land head-on with the ground. It would be easy to make something land in tact as long as the shape of the object, rate of decent, and angle of impact are optimal. And, those things were not moving that fast. They must have some technology to slow them down.
     
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    I'm guessing the whole space thing works 'cause they're moving and building their own heat with the momentum. A stationary object freezes more quickly.
     
  11. SlayerDarkCross

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    Well also when entering the atmosphere the protoform's where rotating which would divide up the stress and help with skidding like all the bots did besides the one who hit the stadium.
     
  12. Deadend

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    Well, one you've got entry forms that are the parts densly put together, and a special form for planetside entry.

    Two, sabots are quite efficient on just about ANYTHING. Seriously, that's some sick military hardware. It's a KE round. Kinetic energy. You're going to have to look it up, an explanation here would take me very long to type. xD What was used in the movie was 105mm Sabot Rounds.

    Three, they do have a form of thin energy layer. They discover this during imager scenes from blackout.

    Four, the prequel novel sets it up so the ark and nemesis aren't far out of orbit.

    and Five, Megatron and Bumblebee were in bot mode. Neither one expecting the sudden shock, and the problem with subzero temperatures hitting unprotected circuitry, the colder it becomes, the harder it is to run. They also explain megatron away as his energy was highly depleted from the long trip. Whereas in space, megatron can at least gather warm from stray radiation or his own thrusters. Maybe not enough to fully recharge, but enough to at least keep going and pushing.
     
  13. Gordon_4

    Gordon_4 The Big Engine

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    I still think it was lame that human military weapons could hurt them, I loved how they're usually portrayed in the cartoons as being levels above our own stuff and that we can't hurt them.
     
  14. nuopus

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    Our weapons can't hurt it. Its the magnesium burn of the sabot rounds that are effective. Those burn at 4000 degrees (in the movie they say 6000 degrees which is on the high end). When put into a high energy kinetic weapon like a sabot round, it is devastating. Now, seeing that those rounds were like small .22 rounds to humans, those robots are VERY VERY strong.

    In the cartoons, nobody ever tried anything like a sabot round with a magnesium warhead. If they did, I will bet they would do damage to the G1 bots too.
     
  15. christopher

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    Megatron and Bumblebee should overclock more when that happens. :p 

    In the original movie, Megatron and the Decepticons just happened to be equipped with err...Sabot Energon on that particular raid.
     
  16. GigatronSama

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    The space thing is easy. Actually overheating is a bigger concern in a vacuous environment. Without air heat is much more difficult to exchange, so heat stays inside in space and cold stays out. Now there is something called "Black body radiation" in which heat is exchanged without air as a medium but it's a much slower process. Water and later liquid nitrogen are much better conductors of heat, and thus could freeze over a TF that the cold of space could not.
     
  17. Psychomud

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    Thats the correct answer! Good job!

    "...and knowing is half the battle!"
     
  18. ILoveDinobot

    ILoveDinobot Arise Rodimus Prime

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    and isn't it strange that within 5 mins Bumblebee was able to find another camaro that was yellow and had black racing stripes to scan? :p  I know off topic sorry lol
     

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