The Who/I Want /Would/Should/Might be in Transformers One Speculation Thread

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  1. sophialiu

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    video editor.
    I still remembered last time I convert DVD to mp4 with my Blu-ray ripper , it is really easy. This is my first time to do some conversion so easily.
     
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    I've been wanting to see Sixshot in ANYTHING all these years. I'm honestly surprised Bay never tried incorporating a character like him, come on, huge baddie with six alt modes taking on like 5 Autobots at once.
    -Starscream
    -Soundwave
    -Shockwave
    -Barricade
    I want development and screen time for these guys. XP
     
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    Other than the obvious (Optimus, Bumblebee, Megatron).
    Autobots: Jazz, Prowl, Ironhide, Sideswipe AND Sunstreaker, Ratchet
    Decepticons: Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Soundwave + Cassettes, Barricade (maybe see how Frenzy ended up partnered with him)
     
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    Young jetfire and bruticus maximus
     
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    Wait... transformers one...wassis???
     
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    we're almost certainly gonna get some new guys as it would ruin any kind of drama if all of the guys who appear in the film are guys who appear in later ones.

    we will probably get anywhere from 4-5 new transformers. that includes both autobots & decepticons...i can see it going something like this..

    bumblebee
    hot rod
    ironhide
    new guy
    new guy

    barricade/frenzy
    blackout/scorponock
    starscream
    new guy
    new guy
    new guy



    prime/shockwave/brains cameo

    that's a smaller cast than every transformers film except maybe one when you count the cameos

    or maybe have drift as a decepticon. that'd be a neat twist! but may be too much for bee 1
     
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    Great job.Maybe start a fan fic thread.

    TFUBB's working name before TFU:The BB Movie.
     
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    Confirmed only 2 TFs on each faction.4 total.3 without BB.
     
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    BarricadeLives i'm you! i'm your shadow!

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    wow really? that is tiny!
     
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    Yep.Lorenzo(the liar)confirmed it.
    Also,I think Moonracer is there,since Haliee posted a photo "Bumblebee's gf" showing a small green car.
     
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    Wtf, after Izzy and Canopy, now this?!
     
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    Yep...
     
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    Decided to write a backstory on the Fallen. Tuck yourselves in and enjoy the read. This is without reference to the IDW comics by the way.

    The Fall of a Prime
    Thousands of year agos, there were seven Primes. Unlike, any other Prime that existed, all of them were mostly similar in their appearance with the Allspark granting them a symbiotic relation with one another. In their duties as Primes, their role was to find external sources of Energon across many worlds for harvest and bring the Energon supply back to Cybertron safely. The seven have made use of a sun harvesting technology which grants them Energon at an exponential rate.

    This technology however put lives at risk. In particular, organic life suffer from the use of such technology. One instance proved too fatal that the seven came into an agreement that sun harvesting would only be allowed if no life is to be affected by any means. Only one of the seven felt weary about this restriction but nevertheless agreed that it would be of best interest.

    Eventually, the seven made a journey to a planet with strong Energon readings. "This planet is something to behold." One of the Primes proclaimed. The Primes were ecstatic to have landed in a world with a seemingly Energon rich environment. "Even the sun is ripe for the taking." They also noted. Together the brothers traveled the land until they discovered vegetation. They also discovered another sight to behold, a group of organic lifeforms holding sticks were chasing a beast across the landscape. The brothers watched from the distant as the beast was struck down and torn to shreds before the lifeforms went away with their prey.

    "Unfortunately, we can't take away the sun from this planet. It wouldn't be fair." A majority of the Primes agreed that there would be no harvesting of the planet's sun but only one of them failed to see the consequences it would have. "We are gifted to be Primes, my brothers. We shouldn't feel guilt over the suffering of organic lifeforms. From what I have seen, they are vile."

    "Don't disobey the oath we have swore, brother. A Prime must be reasonable." After that day, many Cybertronians going by the name 'Seekers' were given co-ordinates to assist the Seven in digging up raw Energon. The one brother who had taken issue with his brother's rule regretted his duty at one point that he decided to stray far away a little for a moment. A mysterious presence that felt evil to him infiltrated his mind and made him hear a cursed word, "Unicron".

    The brother was in denial with what he had heard and thought it was a trick of nature until the words became more objectively clear of what it was talking about. Desperate, the brother told the others of what he had heard. "This is too coincidental to be true." However the brother disputed, "If only you sensed its presence now." "He's right. But he's not active at all. In fact, his in activeness does not pose a single threat to any of us." The rest of the brothers agreed to this statement.

    The brother twisted by his disgust towards the foreign organic life running about and his greed for Energon richness soon fired back, "This rule is the only obstacle standing in our way. If we take the Energon away at a faster rate, we can also prevent his chance at destruction." Sadly, the words proved nothing as the rest of the brothers felt discomfort over this decision and saw a black hole in what the consequence would be. "This would be the same action as Unicron and the Creators we have rebelled against. There is no chance for it."

    Enraged, the brother severed his ties against his brothers and spent more time plotting. He rallied Seekers to support his ideas in secret as he prepared to gather the sun harvesting technology from the ship. As the sun harvester formed into a pyramid like shape, there was only one component missing to start it. "Is something bothering you, brother?" The brother turned around to see that the key, the Matrix of Leadership is in their possession. "None of us have permitted you to commit this act of treason. So why are you doing this?"

    "You are all blind and incapable of making the hard decisions. Hand me the Matrix and this will be over soon." The brother protested. The other brothers looked at each other before answering, "By the Allspark, you leave us no choice. May Primus abandon you. You have fallen from our ideals...." In anger, the brother lead the charge against his 'treacherous' brothers and clashed. Surprisingly, the brother showed his might and fought hard with skills in melee and 'sorcery'.

    "He's more experienced in combat than any of us," One of the brothers said, "We can't beat him that easily." The brother who has the Matrix in his hand gave a defeated look, "Then we have to do the righteous thing and deny him this consequential victory." Together, the brothers retreated and with their last strength performed a ritual that would protect the Matrix of Leadership from anyone except a worthy person.

    The last Prime standing realized that the artifact he and his brothers carried is denied to him. The denial deteriorated what is left of his noble character and his rage can only waste his time. Time has passed, at this point all he wanted was to leave the forsaken rock that is supposedly the body of evil. The brother in his twisted way gathered all the Energon he can including the slaying of his own Seekers to power up the ship (Nemesis) he arrived in and left. However, the long times spent on the planet only provided enough that his ship crashed onto a cold and dark planet with no life.

    The Prime who became known as The Fallen sunk into deep slumber wondering if his kind was ever right to be sentient in the first place or if they had malfunctioned too far from their purpose. Regardless, his story is of inspiration to those looking to be rebellious and bold to defy laws. That story would give Megatron the needed motivation to start up a cause.
     
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    Here's my next piece. Enjoy.

    The Origins of the Autobot-Decepticon War

    The first record of any conflict between the Autobots and Decepticons was said to be carried out on ancient Earth, who at the time was only known as Unicron by many Cybertronians. The Autobots descended from a group of Cybertronians that served the ancient Primes while carrying on ideologies from the earliest Cybertronians known as the Knights of Iacon. The Decepticons on the other hand were a group formed by The Fallen, who defied the laws that were sanctioned on him.

    The fight for the possession of the Matrix of Leadership was acknowledged in the Iacon archives to be the first in history war between Cybertronians alone. After the Fallen left Earth, he left behind Seekers who were marooned on the planet to survive on raw Energon scraps. Luckily, their dream to return home was promised through the Space Bridge technology they had with them which was meant to serve as transport on ground alone. The Seekers which included Jetfire selflessly tried many attempts to build a Space Bridge that would be enough to send one Seeker back to Cybertron and relay a signal for rescue.

    The one Seeker who made it back to Cybertron unfortunately was damaged by the faulty Space Bridge technology but survived long enough to be rescued by fellow Cybertronians. A story of the time on Unicron was shared by the Seeker, whose story was dismissed as somewhat nonsensical and as a result was sent to a Cybertronian mental facility at Tarn. Nevertheless, the story of the Seeker's return was recorded in the Iacon Hall of Records since it was the first time in history, Cybertron had seen a Seeker.

    The news of the Seeker caught the attention of high-ranking Cybertronians Sentinel Prime and Megatron. Sentinel Prime on one hand became more enamored in his studies of the Chaos God, Unicron long before the next war erupted. Megatron on the other hand had arranged visits with the Seeker to learn more about the idea on how Cybertronians can turn against each other. Orion Pax at the time was indifferent and claimed that this story to him doesn't justify Unicron's prescene properly.

    The Autobot-Decepticon war that erupted on Cybertron soon took a larger toll. Iacon was the first to be struck and records of Cybertronian history were ransacked. Megatron denounced the Autobot government system and attempted to destroy relics belonging to the Knights of Iacon claiming that Cybertronians can be powerful if they can let go of the out-dated past that shackle them. Although this motivation can be called into question when Megatron made a deal with Sentinel, a believer in the Knights to save Cybertron from impending doom.

    By the time Sentinel gave Optimus Prime the responsibility to lead the Autobots and left Optimus in command, the wars effect took a nosedive for the Autobots. Unlike Sentinel before him, Optimus Prime, although an efficient warrior arranged new policies regarding the war. Optimus granted the Autobots and even some neutral Cybertronians the right to leave Cybertron and escape the wrath of Megatron. This action was debated by some as to why the Autobots did not win the war. Soldier numbers suffered and so did supplies for the Autobots. One Autobot known as Cogman escaped Cybertron with one of the last remaining Knights of Iacon relics, the knight table with the legend of Primus and Unicron.

    Seeing no other choice, Optimus made the decision to launch the Allspark and deny Megatron's endless conquest for power. While Cybertron died, the war however continued to rage on across many other worlds throughout the universe.
     
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    The Way of a Prime (Part 1)

    Cybertron's political system is traditionally governed by a leader with the title of 'Prime'. Originally like many Cybertronians, Primes were slaves of the cruel alien race known anonymously as The Creators. Eventually a rebellion made the Cybetronians smarter as a result and thus lead Cybertron to a time called 'The Golden Age'. It is common to look upon Primes as if they were gods of sorts.

    Seven Primes were alive during the time the Creators were driven out of Cybertron. Despite being The Golden Age, Cybertron was not as unified as some Cybertronians believed, in fact the planet was divided due to the Primes constantly clashing with their ideologies. Despite not being an all out war against each other, the Seven Primes were still instrumental in small conflicts that had happened. Eventually, the Cybertronians grew tired of their leaders and planned to overthrow them for their incompetence.

    The Cybetronian who led the protest against the Seven Primes was called Sentinel Major. Sentinel Major conquered each territory from each Prime through strategy and used their pride as an advantage to gain the upper hand. Eventually, Sentinel had all Seven Primes had his mercy to the amazement of many Cybertronians. Most of the Primes eventually admitted their errors and decided that they have disappointed Primus who may or may not have seen their actions.

    The Primes decided that the best way to make up for their actions was to leave Cybertron for good. But Sentinel Major added that despite their actions, they are always Cybertronian and not traitors to the planet by any means. Sentinel Major tasked each of the disgraced Primes to search out new worlds for resources which would act as a debt to repay for their crimes. Finding this deal reasonable, the Seven Primes agreed that time away from Cybertron while also attempting to repay Cybertron is the best they deserve. The Primes also tried giving the Matrix of Leadership to Sentinel.

    Sentinel looked at the Matrix but instead of accepting it, he made the choice to pass it back. "I believe this item is more than just a token for leadership. I believe the Allspark gave you this for a more practical purpose." Eventually the Matrix was passed back. Days later, the Primes would leave along with other Cybertronians to embark on their quest. Sentinel Major eventually was renamed Sentinel Prime and well known for his heroic deeds for Cybertron.

    Under Sentinel, Cybertron became more unified than ever. The leadership of Sentinel also saw major uplifts in Cybertronian art culture. For starters, Sentinel Prime recalled the early principles of the Knights of Cybertron who he later renamed as 'The Knights of Iacon'. He stressed that Cybertron's step into a new age isn't without a sacrifice citing the famous words, 'No sacrifice, no victory'. The past of when the Seven Primes ruled was soon renamed 'The Dynasty of Primes' while the words 'Golden Age' were used under his leadership. All of this history was considered to be the first archived information within the Iacon Hall of Records.

    What Sentinel Prime's mark on Cybertron shows is that a Prime can be anyone who can push forward their ideas. They do not have to be approved and marked by Primus nor do they really need the Matrix to show it. As long as they can work for the good intentions of Cybertron, they would have a chance.
     
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    The Way of a Prime (Part 2)

    All of Sentinel's intentions were for the glory of Cybertron and nothing more. To right the wrongs from the Dynasty of Primes, Sentinel introduced a new form of government body known as the Autobot High Council and promised that his rule will be democratic to all Cybertronians. All Cybertronians were to be treated equal regardless of their class. Sentinel also promised that when the time is right, a new Prime may be elected to potentially replace him.

    During his time as Cybertron's leader, Sentinel overhauled the education system as a method of enforcing his ideals. Cybertronian language was updated from the language of the Primes to modern Cybertronian by scholars. Historians were tasked with the recovery of artifacts that were ruined during the Dynasty of Primes. In Sentinel's eyes, the Knights were a symbol of free will and that without their guidance Cybertron would not have made it this far. Sentinel even modeled his look to resemble a knight to remind people of where they began.

    Three important buildings were proudly built at the heart of Iacon alongside the old ones. The Academy of Science and Technology was an institution built to foster better understanding on the biology, chemistry and innovation of Cybertron. The area is quite public due to large numbers of Cybertronians attempting to gain skills. The Hall of Records was a revamp of an old Knights of Iacon temple to hold sacred records of Cybertronian history. Led by the mysterious Alpha Trion, the Hall of Records is key to a better understanding on the state of Cybertron and dedicated to the Allspark itself. Last but not least is the parliament for the Autobot High Council, new legislations all pass through here as well as the place where elections for Prime take place.

    Years went by, Sentinel's search for a new Prime proved that there were some high standards no doubt. He searched for worthy graduates from the Academy of Science and Technology but the choice was more muddled. The Lord High Protector of Cybertron known as Megatronous approached him and attempted to persuade Sentinel that he should be Prime. "I'll think about it." Sentinel said as he continued to search.

    The thought of finding a new Prime brought a sense of regret to Sentinel. The time during the rebellion against the Creators was said to be a time where Primes were common even if they were slaves back then. Some of course have died, some mysteriously disappeared leaving only rumors while the Seven Primes Sentinel had exiled, he felt a sense of betrayal to Primus himself. Sentinel's regret was counteracted by the time he was allowed himself into the Hall of Records. Here he studied the legend of Primus and Unicron as foretold by the Knights themselves on a table. In his mind, he felt the legend also foreshadowed a warning to Cybertron's security.

    It is here, Sentinel met Orion Pax, a graduate from the Academy who is now working as a data clerk in the Hall of Records. Sentinel eventually got along with the young data clerk learning the ins and outs of what he believes. Orion claimed he did not believe in everything the Knights say and that he came here more on the Allspark's behalf. "How could you put so much of your faith in an inanimate object?" Sentinel asked. "Its ancient mystery tells more for me. Its choice to spring life, its choice to grant death. And its own choice to make us think." Orion replied.

    Sentinel then felt something with the data clerk. "My friend... You may be something special to all of Cybertron. Maybe even more special than me."
     
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    I was going to continue my story on Optimus's emergence to Prime but I decided I want to take my time off and work on a side-story regarding Primus and Unicron that adds to the lore. First one is how I think modern Cybertronians would interpret it and the second one being ancient one, I decided to write it as a little poem for it.

    The Covenant of Primus (by Alpha Trion)

    Before time in the universe began, there was Primus and there was Unicron. Primus is all for favoring of springing new life while Unicron favors the taste of life's destruction. Originally, the two were benefited each other and acted much like brother. When Unicron's greed to destroy grew, Primus was faced with the ultimate task.

    Unlike his brother, Primus being pure at heart knew that to do good, he must accept the choice of sacrifice. Primus's life force was drained slowly as the Life Bringer began to overwhelm his brother as he called upon life to assist him. The Chaos Bringer having no one on his side gave in and eventually was trapped by his own brother's spell. All that was left of Primus was his spark... That spark however will ultimately bring life for our kind.

    We, Cybertronians must accept this legend as our answer to our existence. As we understand that the universe confines us into finding further answers about ourselves.


    The Tale of Light and Darkness (by the Knights of Iacon)

    Darkness falls and light to break it.
    When the horns of our foe come.
    Our creator's spark can destroy it.

    For our sacred duty.
    We will answer to Him.
    When the evil we sealed approaches.
    Our time for sacrifice will be done.

     
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    Note: This is not a legend written by Cybertronians. This is my interpretation of events.

    The Shackles of Retribution

    After his defeat at the ends of Primus, Unicron remained trapped and surrounded by layers of rock. His brother's spell proved too powerful to escape by physical means as the Chaos Bringer had no choice but to rest in pain. His surroundings began to overheat him which mostly due to the energon that is compressed with him.

    As trapped as he was, Unicron also felt the gravitational pull from a large star in the cosmos. Eventually there was no more movement and everything came to a halt. Unicron listened to his surroundings as water vapor began to form and the earth above him started to change shape. "Disgusting...." Unicron murmured as he realized that not only had Primus trapped him but he also sprout life all over him. The very thing he wants to purge out of existence.

    Plants started to grow and animals from land to sea came to be. Unicron wailed in pain beneath the magma and rocks but nothing could free him from what he considers a disease. Unicron's pain however allowed natural disasters ranging from volcanoes, tsunamis and earthquakes to happen. Years by and all Unicron had to himself was suffering. It was not until visitors from another world came.

    The visitors who are close to him came by spaceship fleets and soon began dropping devices that would implode on impact with the ground. Unicron at first felt pain but another strange sensation came to him, relief. For the first time in many years, he felt something nice. The visitors were actually destroying some of the life on him up until the point when the arms of their spaceship started to collect the material they had created on him.

    Unicron soon realized that these lifeforms are perhaps not destroying life but rather attempting to create life to which he decried. As soon as the visitors left, Unicron once again suffered another round of life existing on top of him. Years went by and another special moment happened for the Chaos Bringer. He finally sensed an unpleasant presence he had not felt for years, his brother.

    Unicron listened closely to the conversation of at least seven voices discussing about the planet they are on. One voice he listened to mentioned the desire to extinguish the life forms on him. To Unicron, these were pleasing words and the Chaos Bringer sought to manipulate the individual telepathically who was revealed to be a life form birthed from the spark of Primus. Unicron tempted the life form who was known as the Fallen and encouraged him to go against his principles and kill life based on his presence.

    However his manipulation never came to be and the Fallen left him leaving behind Cybertronians and the dreaded artifact known as the Matrix of Leadership on him. Unicron wanted to punish The Fallen by any means necessary if the earth was not so layered on him. Another terrible period of years went by, as the life forms known as humans became more intelligent. Worse, more Cybertronians have arrived sending more of Primus's unwanted presence on him.

    The humans being the native parasites on him did all sorts of meddling on top of him and sent Unicron into a crazed state. The Cybertronians gave it worse as they arrived in more numbers at different times. Unicron then wondered if the Cybertronians are going to continuously pile up on him no matter what. In the year 1913, a interesting and typically disgusting thing happened and Unicron felt the Allspark land on him. "You'll pay for this!" Unicron raged.

    The Allspark however was destroyed after a chaotic battle on top of him ensued. This was soon followed by the cold feeling of the sun being harvested. For Unicron, this was his favourite moment as it represents the chaos he relishes on. Not long afterwards, the biggest event in his life came to him. A lifeless body of Cybertron loomed above him all of a sudden and startled Unicron. Unicron attempted to defend himself before the planet collasped backwards due to the destruction of the Space Bridge.

    A panicked Unicron felt the need to try and free himself from Primus's spell. Another set of years went by with a mysterious ship looming over him reminding him of the first alien visitors that bombed on him. Conflict ensued as well and at last, Unicron was ready. His horns slowly began to rise from different parts of the world in preparation and assurance that his brother would be back to completely destroy him after so many years of being trapped.
     
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    I decided to do more of these stories after a long hiatus. Thought it be fun.

    Megatron's Master Plan

    Long ago on the planet of Cybertron, the Cybertronian who was later known as Megatron held responsibility to preserve Cybertron's military force as Lord High Protector. This was a title many Cybertronians would be jealous of having as it involved the right to impose martial law on Cybertronians bound to break the law. Prior to being called Decepticons, Megatron's followers mostly consisted of those willing to spill energon on the floor for the hard work they do.

    This would include energon harvesting or being hardened warriors. During the revolution against the Creators, Megatron was a well-trained warrior who had stood behind Sentinel Prime's back and engaged in forming tactics to take down their ruthless oppressors. After victory was earned, Sentinel Prime had made efforts to look for a worthy successor after him. Megatron's title as Lord High Protector combined with an ambition to be Prime proved to be a fatal flaw for him as the beginning of his Decepticon movement.

    Rejection from the High Council sent Megatron into a seething rage as he took it as a moment to show how thoughtless the politics of Cybertron were. The ideas of freedom to him felt self-indulgent and were used as an excuse to remind Cybertronians of the time of the Creators. Megatron's motivation was further pushed by an interest into the legend of The Fallen. The story of a Prime who defied his fellow Primes drew him to the sense of rebellion that he wanted to bring forth for his agenda. Rallying followers such as Starscream and Soundwave behind him, the leader of the Decepticons hypnotized followers into believing that it is time to restore a new order for Cybertron and promise that all Cybertronians would have power on their own as a result.

    The first attack on Iacon was like a warning to Megatron as a message of fear. But this did not stop the Autobots from fighting back. War came to light with the stability of Cybertron at stake. Megatron was hungry for the Allspark as it means he can get ultimate control into what comes to life on Cybertron. As the Decepticons took hold of many areas around Cybetron, Sentinel at one point approached him with an alternative deal that would promise him control over Cybertron. As Sentinel proposed a plan based on his beliefs on the Knights of Iacon, Megatron hesitantly put the plan on thought as a secondary basis on how he could maintain his hold of Cybertron once the Allspark was his.

    After Sentinel left Cybertron, Megatron almost forgot about the deal and concentrated on the conquering of the Allspark. However his former friend, Optimus ejected the life-giving Cube out of the planet's spark and dooming it to the war-torn state it is. Megatron was desperate and abandoned the Decepticons in blind pursuit. During his pursuit, Megatron at one point met up with Soundwave who was tasked with surveillance against Sentinel Prime. Eventually they discovered The Fallen was still alive. This discovery put Megatron into a lesser position as the Decepticon leader listened the Prime's wisdom on choosing to pursue Primus or Unicron's spark.

    Years later after the battle of Chicago on Earth finished, Megatron's conscious lay dormant planning to resurrect himself and taking control of the Seed to reform all that was lost to him. A slow gradual return for the Decepticons began until Megatron made contact with the ancient enemy, Quintessa. Quintessa had all the wit to put Megatron back into motion but at the same time manipulate him. At this moment, Megatron's attempt to save Cybertron were revitalized again.
     
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