The Ultimate Hero becomes the Ultimate Villan or Vice Versa ?

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  1. RedAlert Rescue

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    I just had an odd and slightly funny thought pop into my head, the idea of "Shattered Glass The Fallen".

    Would he be Transformers Greatest Hero !

    What do you think in general about the idea of the greatest of Villans as the Greatest of Heroes or the reverse ...

    Which ones work best ?

    Either existing ones one who have yet to be Shattered - and just in general terms... what about the story idea is it 12-1 with a dozen crazy demi-gods against 1 Heroic one and what does it mean for Primus and Unicron if the world is shattered are they shattered too ?
     
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    They are universal singularities. That means Primus, Unicron and the 13 are the same in every continuity. So Primus is still good, and Unicron is still bad.
     
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    Eh, Sentinel was muuuuch beater than the Fallen.
     
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    That could work. He was once an original Prime, created to bring chaos and destruction to the universe, but he couldn't because he new it wasn't right, so he was cast out by his brothers who deemed him weak.

    That's no fun. We're talking what-ifs here.

    ?
     
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    Then the Fallen is the first autobot then.
     
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    The Risen?
     
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    Alpha Trion is supposed to be a member of the first 13 and so a multiversal singularity as well and he is evil in the Shattered Glass universe.
     
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    SG Alpha Trion puts a hole in that theory.
     
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    Yeah the Universal Singularity thing is quite messy.
     
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    The Fallen I believe was the "Spirit of Entropy" (I think of them as Demi-gods really) so can you be responsible for a destructive power and still seen as essential and positive - (Shiva is somewhat like this)... Entropy leads to rebirth if you like - he can be the same guy and yet not be seen by people the same way and so not end up acting the same way.

    Just a thought anyway.

    How about a Shattered Glass Vector Prime running about Time traveling for evil purposes ?
     
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    This could be an interesting idea, especially if we build on Split Lip's idea. The Fallen could have realized that some people need to be destroyed before they hurt others, so he could use his powers of entropy and destruction against monsters like SG Optimus Prime or SG Alpha Trion. He would be an agent of judgment, of retribution, of punishment, slaying the wicked and dragging their Sparks off to the Pit.
     
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    So, he'd essentially be Dreamwave Sunstorm?
     
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    I just had an odd and slightly funny thought pop into my head, the idea of "Shattered Glass The Fallen".

    I asked that at botcon 09 and they said

    1. the fallen's a multiverisal singularity so there's no good fallen and heroic unicron or evil primus

    2. if he entered the shatteredverse, he'd turn to ice
     
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    And forever his name will be SORBET!
     
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    He'd be like an old Steam engine stuck in a glacial crevice.
     

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