The other autobots on the Ark

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  1. dirgestone

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    Why didn't Prime and Ratchet attempt to save any other autobots onboard the Ark? They didn't even stop to see after them. I would think Prime would care about his fallen about troops. Is Ratchet a horrid medic how can't get revive a few bots ? What are your thoughts?
     
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    Dead Transformers = Dead.
    Dead Primes = Revive-able by Matrix.
     
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    Probably because they were all dead. And for a long time. Ratchet stated that Sentinel's levels were faint, which basically translates to: "Yo, Prime, these guys are all dead, but this big red one here still has some juice in him." Sentinel only survived the crash (read: floating through space and crash landing) because he was in the crash vault. All of those other Autobots were thrown around like ragdolls. We're lucky we didn't see severed limbs hanging from the ceiling. :lol 

    And even if they were alive, it wouldn't be essential for the story, and you can bet that if the story called for it, Optimus would try to revive them. But it didn't, so he didn't.

    Now, could there have been a few short shots where Optimus and Ratchet kneel down to examine the fallen soldiers and mourn their loss? Sure. But by that logic, there's a bajillion other things that the movies could've done and they would've been 19 hours long each.
     
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    It isn't the first time, Like when Jazz died, he only said " aaaw jazz" then pretty much dumped him. and rachet. OH RACHET! He is such a crappy medic, he can't even fix a voice box!
     
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    I think having them survive would be good because that would mean there's a bunch of Autobot generics that can get killed by the Decepticons.
     
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    By the end of the trilogy, "Aww Jazz..." is looking pretty good now. :lol 
     
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    Optimus is rather apathetic about death. If a bot appears dead, it isn't worth the effort to check to be sure or mourn the loss or even acknowledge it. =/

    Kinda wish we saw Ratchet check one, find that they're dead, then discover Sentinel's still kicking. Yeah the Ark was lost ages ago and nothing implied anyone aboard survived, but you'd expect some sort of inspection instead of making a bee-line for the crash vault.
     
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    All of them except Sentinel were torn/blown up and had been totally drained of Energon. Sentinel was more safe and secure in the crash vault and he still had a bit of lifeforce to him ("his levels are faint").
     
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    Decepticons had been to the ship to get the pillars, they could have suicided any stasis survivors.
     
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    I'd imagine that when your in a war, or really any situation where death is constantly present, you would become accustomed to it over time until it gets to the point where it pretty much seems like an average day in life.

    Plus, Prime needs to keep it cool for the other Autobots. If he panics about the situation they're in, they all do. If he stays courageous despite the dire situation his team are in, so do they.

    That's another good point.
     
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    Maybe if they had been good friends of Optimus he would have cared about them as well.
     
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    I really don't think the Matrix is really picky over who it revives or not.

    I wish Prime and Ratchet too the time to see if it'd be possible for any other Autobots to be recovered. Who knows, maybe a fan favorite was among the wreckage?
     
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    Transformers 4: The Search for the "bringing Robots back to life" Plot Device Machine.
     
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    Optimus is a dick and Ratchet made M.D. with the aid of a degree mill.
     
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    Again, they're dead. Yes, having Optimus kneel down next to one and shake his head would've added worlds to his character, but there's a lot of dead 'Bots around him and there's only 2.5 hours worth of the movie! :lol  If they were alive, you can bet that something would've been said/done about the situation.

    Actually, based on the plot, that's exactly what was/is expected of them to do. This isn't a rescue mission to try and salvage random dead Autobots from a crashed ship years ago. This is an imperative mission to locate Sentinel/the "technology" before the Decepticons learn of its location, which, after all, would mean "the end of your world".

    And this. Does Gibbs (from NCIS) constantly break down whenever a naval officer is found dead? He deals with this almost every day for years. Is he saddened? Probably. But he doesn't need to be sniffing and wiping his nose every episode. In fact, it comes across almost as cold, but it's not "I don't care about the dead", it's "another life lost, can't save them now, let's find some justice". His character is very Optimus-y in my opinion.

    Gold, right here, people.
     
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