What I was hoping for with the movie, was to see a more indepth look into the past of the sign's... the Autobot and Decepticon symbol. I've seen allot of episodes, all of the G1, G2 and some G3 episodes. Some Armada's and Beastwars... sadly not allot of Beastmachines though... but in all these episode I've never seen or heard any details about the origin of the Transformer emblems. Does anyone here know what, where, when??? I mean are they faces of the ancestors of Cybertron, or do they belong to Primus or Unicron?