The October Man sequence...

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  1. Mr. Jiggles

    Mr. Jiggles loves your mother.

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    Anybody ever heard of this? Sounds pretty farfetched to me, but some people swear by it...

    "In the Seduction community, there are certain Neuro-Linguistic Programming Patterns which are said to be "Forbidden". These patterns have been developed by the major students and teachers of the Speed Seduction school, and are vehemently protected from the public eye by those who know them. This is because the inherent manipulative and insidious nature of these patterns make them, according to these 'Gurus', morally unacceptable as public knowledge.

    The 'October Man Sequence' is one of the most sought after of these patterns.

    Originally developed by seductionists In10se and Swinggcat, the October Man Sequence is so sought after because it is said to be the single most powerful NLP routine made for use in seduction, and, one could argue, because of the fact that it is touted as a big, bad 'forbidden' secret, known only to the best of the best.

    The usefulness and functionality of the sequence sparks heated debate within the community, and this could be for a few reasons.

    Firstly, many are sceptical as to whether any NLP 'pattern' could create the results proponents of this particular sequence claim to. It has been touted as achieving "15 minute lays", insinuating that users of this pattern have gone from meet to intercourse within 15 minutes. Whether one pattern could achieve this sort of result is debatable.

    Secondly, many of the current generation Pick Up Artist's were introduced to the community through Neil Strauss's book The Game, which presents an unfavourable view of NLP and Speed Seduction. This results in many of the current day seductionists being wary of NLP patterns, and automatically dismissive of Speed Seduction teachings.

    There is much debate from among who don't possess this pattern as to what the pattern actually accomplishes. Some suggest that it installs in the target an unconscious compulsion which anchors every thought outside of the PUA with pain, and every thought involving the PUA to pleasure.

    Others stipulate that it simply installs an anchor for good feelings when the PUA pulls the target in, and bad feelings when the PUA pushes the target away.

    However most PUA's will not learn this particular technique, but more techniques with even greater claimed power could easily be created by someone with the will and time to absorb NLP information from other sources, to equip them with the information needed to make their own patterns.

    These sorts of "instant control" techniques, though, usually appeal to those wanting a quick fix to their perceived shortcomings, and those who desire an unhealthy appetite for control of others.

    While not verified by either in10se or Swinggcat, the October Man Sequence is said to consist of the following three patterns:

    'The Hospital Pattern'. This pattern serves to fractionate the subject from intense feelings of pain to pleasure, and swing the subjects emotions like a pendulum. The pain is anchored to something away from the PUA, while pleasure is anchored directly to the PUA. This technique not only emotionally distorts the subject into a state of feeling disoriented with the outside world, but also creates a feeling of safety within the PUA's presence, building a disorienting semi-dependency.

    'The Gemini Pattern'. This pattern is designed to create two subconscious identities in the subject. One being the socially adhering, conservative identity, the other being the sexually free, socially uninhibited identity. Once these two identities are built, the desired identity is brought out of the subject, replacing the identity not desired (by the PUA) as the major source of personal direction for the subject.

    'The Rising Sun Pattern'. This pattern installs the idea of a 'shadow' within the subject, which harbours all of the subjects natural (read - sexual) desires and fanatasies. Once the concept of the shadow has been installed, the concept is enlarged, until the idea becomes tangible and real to the subject. The PUA will then guide the subject into stepping 'into' the shadow, and assume its dominance.

    These three patterns serve to not only anchor a multitude of desirable feelings to the PUA, but fractionates these with the painful and undesirable feelings anchored outside of the PUA. It then builds a new sexual identity within the subject, and allows this identity to gain dominance. The effect is then reinforced with a post-hypnotic guiding of the subject into the concept of a 'shadow' which holds all the subjects repressed desires and fantasies, inducing the subject to act with greater sexual recklessness.

    The patterns themselves should generally not be posted verbatim for mass consumption. Those with a found understanding of Neuro Linguistic Programming would be able to create patterns using the guide above, but those without a thorough understanding of NLP may misuse the patterns if they were posted word-for-word.

    Although, the counter-argument to this being, those without a thorough knowledge of NLP would likely not be able to perform these sorts of patterns as proficiently as needed to induce the sorts of changes aimed for within the subject.

    Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mathmo/October_man_sequence""
     
  2. Xabungle

    Xabungle Well-Known Member

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    That was a difficult read. But interesting.
     
  3. Zzeezz

    Zzeezz Ambassador of Music TFW2005 Supporter

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    I'm not sure if I should feel confused or if I should laugh outloud.
     
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    smangerbot The Holy Zombie Jesus TFW2005 Supporter

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    my brain hurts.
     
  5. Mr. Jiggles

    Mr. Jiggles loves your mother.

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    Cliff's Notes for practical applications:

    If you say certain phrases a certain way, panties will drop all around you.
     
  6. smangerbot

    smangerbot The Holy Zombie Jesus TFW2005 Supporter

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    this instruction manual's more complicated than my vcr.
     
  7. trebleshot

    trebleshot www.Toyark.com Veteran

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    Seems like an awful lot of work just to get laid. Couldn't you just buy her a couple of drinks?


    And from the slightly-off-topic bin, we have this:

    The "Rising Sun" pattern reminded me of a Tool song. "Forty-Six and 2," I think it was.
     
  8. TheIncredibleHulk

    TheIncredibleHulk Find Gary Busey!

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  9. Bumble Prime

    Bumble Prime all the time

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    so in a nut shell.......

    Treat the girl like crap then treat her nice, buy her drinks to seprate her moral consciousness from her social self, then you get laid.......

    wow...real groundbreaking shit there lol

    sidenote, has anyone seen the pickup artist on VH1? add to these techniques to also wear scarves and leather flight caps with goggles to make the girl think you have a bi-plane parked outside the bar.
     
  10. Phy

    Phy I want... ROOM SERVICE!!

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    In fact, forget the girl, just give me the biplane.
     
  11. Jux

    Jux Please, call me Steve. Veteran

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    In a way, it's like the ultimate smooth talking.

    Anyone with decent communication skills can manipulate people into certain things. Getting into a girl's pants, talking your way out of a speeding ticket, and so forth. It might not always work, but if you play it right, you can get your way with a lot of things. Honestly, I'll do this with girls at bars for fun - I get a bit of a thrill out of the manipulative and persuasive powers.

    It's not so far fetched to think that there could be a lot more science behind it which makes it even more so powerful.
     
  12. Dark_Convoy

    Dark_Convoy Old Bastard Veteran

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    Same here, I find just knowing that a woman is willing/wants to jump into the sack with me satisfying - well, now that I am married that is, It's kind of like a game I play with myself.
     
  13. ShortCircuit

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    A woman knows if she wants to screw you in 15 seconds.
     
  14. Jux

    Jux Please, call me Steve. Veteran

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    Yeah.

    Half the fun is getting them to do it anyway. ;) 
     

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