The -NEW- END ALL BE ALL Masterpiece Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by GogDog, Dec 1, 2011.

  1. Sam

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    You're right, the purpose of your post wasn't to diss BW, it's more just that your original comment used the word juvenile, which is usually a negative word. If you have no problem admitting that G1 was juvenile too then I guess it's all good ;) 
     
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    But... BW sucks in regards to "robots in disguise".

    Who were they disguised from, as humans weren't around?

    Love that it kept the franchise alive so we could be where we are today, but come on... it wasn't what transformers itself set out to be; disguised from the norm that is "us".

    Just give me another g1 reveal, and i'll crawl back into the comfortable hole under the rock I call my ark.
     
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  3. GearsRollo

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    This is the exact thing that makes me love fandom, despite constantly being shown that we’re not equal to our love of whatever we enjoy so much.

    When people realize that they can enjoy two things, or that they don’t have to back some ridiculous sides of what’s the best like the sort of Batman vs. Superman nonsense or Star Wars vs. Star Trek, it really makes for a greater fun for themselves. Honestly, whenever I see people in here hating on one set or the other, it just bums me out. They’re cutting off their own nose to spite their face.
     
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  4. Such Heroic Nonsense

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    Take heart. As the prophecy has foretold, one day G1 and BW-lovers shall unite as brothers to rise against their common foe: Bayformers apologists.
     
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  5. BWfan86

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    Fixed that for you
     
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  6. Sam

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    Beast Wars never used 'robots in disguise' as its slogan. That doesn't have to be what Transformers is about. It's a neat aspect, but one of the cool things about BW is we can just focus on the Transformers rather than the human characters (where I feel the Bay movies went wrong).



    Going back to Hound, he's certainly been rumoured since at least last September. Who knows what's going on there, as much as I wanted v3 Prime I didn't want there to be no new carbots this year - thought that was the one thing we could always count on.

    Maybe they'll make up for that with two next year :thumb 
     
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  7. Cyclonus79

    Cyclonus79 Decepticon General

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    Watch the cartoon . They explain what there beast forms were used for . It was more for there own protection then anything.
     
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  8. SunSwipe5

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    While we have a ton of reprints and reissues, we have only one new release this year from Takara.

    If you count Takara/Hasbro MPMs, then we have three new releases.

    We’ve had zero new G1 releases, which sucks. Hopefully, Takara releases 2 new G1 carbots in 2019 to coincide with V3 Prime.
     
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    It’s Fantoys or bust for me. They would kick the shit out of a Gnaw figure

    Yep me too. TF peaked and died with TFTM for me (probably about 25 minutes in if I’m honest). I couldn’t give two effs for BW... but if I did, by god that MP-4whateverBMegatron is really something special!

    Hair-metal + insane animation + Vince diCola = WINFINITE

    We are discussing our beloved toy-robot-based, kid-orientated universe yes?
     
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  10. BWfan86

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    I'd rather a carbot and a smaller BW release, TBH. While I love the carbots, I would hate to see the BW line lose momentum,
     
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    It won’t with the current lineup unless they skip them in 2020.
     
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    I meant in addition to a smaller BW MP for 2019
     
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    How so, since BW Megatron is coming out in January 2019- even 11 months would be a huge gap
     
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    gotcha
     
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    Their size wasn't especially consistent. Didn't help with Gnaw's original figure being pretty big.

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    Still, that's why I said smaller, rather than small. ;)  And I agree that a Sharkticon/Gnaw MP could easily be as high as $140, but I'd be okay with that! :cool:  (Yes, yes, never gonna happen anyway...party pooper!)

    Yeah, add a few (a few) more Movie/S3 characters to Ultra Magnus, and otherwise we have the same backstory.

    Ok Gears, time to start the Bayverse loving!

    But seriously, it's not that I hate any other iterations of Transformers besides G1 (though the Bayverse does push its luck in that regard), that's a pretty strong stance, but I don't much care for any of them either. I got about 3 episodes or so into BW years ago, and just felt whatever about it, and never went back to it. Didn't like it, but didn't hate it either. Just meh.

    And the two should be Trailbreaker & Hoist because that way they only really count as one, so then we're owed a third! Jazz, Mirage, Hound, Skids...take your pick TT, as long as the rest aren't far behind!
     
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    I think Meh and moving on is totally respectable. That leaves the opening for reinvestigsting down the road, and also just means it’s not worth trashing.

    Personally, I’m happy to debate the effectiveness of design about Bayverse stuff all day, and let’s be honest - they’re not the strongest designs of TFdom by and large, but I’ll freely admit there are a few good things about it.

    In a good discussion, I’ll pull out my reasons I don’t like it, but honestly? Fans of it should enjoy it. My goal is to get them to look beyond it, not to walk away in disgust, because I feel that they’re missing out in some great - possibly better - stuff. It’s pretty much the same for BW or G1 hardcore too. Look past, accept validity, and have some fun.
     
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  17. Lazerwave

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    There is no doubt Takara will attempt to make Rhinox and Rattrap because they feel Heroes should be made priority. But I'd rather have them make a Predacon next.

    I would prefer to either see Scorponok, Terrorsaur, Tarantulas or Inferno as the next BW MP. I think the question is if Takara is comfortable making transforming Insects.
     
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  18. BWfan86

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    I think the next BW release will be someone who can pair well with Cheetor - since he hasn’t had a reissue yet, releasing a figure that pairs well with him can support sales for a reissue. Maybe Tarantulas to coincide with him getting trapped in the web early on in the series?
     
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    I would think Waspinator is Cheetor's counterpart.
     
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    I’m thinking Trailbreaker and Hoist starting up next year seems like a good possibility.

    My wishful thinking prediction is a surprise reveal of Hound for the end of this year, V3 Prime in Q1 or Q2 2019, then later in 2019 we have Trailbreaker and a Decepticon 3-pack (Reflector or Insecticons). Hoist would be an early 2020 release similar to how Grapple followed Inferno.

    Regardless of what ends up in the G1 MP release schedule for next year, there are several great figures in the works according to various rumors/leaks from the last couple of years. If the average development cycle for an MP is about 2 years then we should be seeing some great stuff soon.

    Plus, having Sunstreaker show up with full-color photos out of the blue has me hopeful that we’ll see similar reveals for some of the remaining “difficult” releases showing up in style. ;) 
     
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