The Matrix

Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by Wheeljack30, Oct 5, 2011.

  1. Mykamusprime

    Mykamusprime Well-Known Member

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    Therefore, at one point Optimus was not worthy of bearing the Matrix as he explained to Magnus. I think someone asked this.
     
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    worthiness is a vague concept anyway:thumbs2: 
     
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    QFT!!!^ :) 
     
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    Solrac333 G1 got it right!

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    I wonder if he kept it safely hidden by actually bearing it. I always thought he bared it even though he was not "Prime".
     
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    sto_vo_kor_2000 Banned

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    I think thats very likely.

    Remember in "the return of Optimus prime", when Optimus entered the matrix he encountered Alpha Trions "ghost".

    The way I see it, that at least suggest that Alpha once carried the matrix within himself.
     
  6. Wheeljack30

    Wheeljack30 Banned

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    But what I don't understand is that when Hot Rod received the Matrix he became Rodimus but when he gave it bavck to Prime he became Hot Rod once again, how come Prime returned as Orion Pax after he gave the Matrix to Ultra Magnus?
     
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    I believe that Rodimus reverted back to Hot Rod when he surrendered the Matrix to Optimus because he was already Hot Rod when he first received it. When Optimus received it, he had already been rebuilt by Alpha Trion. Therefore, he could not revert back to Orion Pax's body style as he no longer had that form when he got it, he had his new form. Or then again, it could have just been because he was dying. :) 

    That's just my take on it. Sto_vo_kor_2000, what say you? :) 
     
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    The never answered that but there are a few theories.

    1] Optimus was never changed by the matrix, he was physically rebuilt by Alpha
    2] Optimus was reformated by Teletrasn 1
    3] Optimus did not have the same genetic connection with the matrix
    4] the Matrix chose to upgrade Hotrod

    it works

    But like I said, I always felt it was a genetic connection
     
  9. Sunstorm9119

    Sunstorm9119 "Ambitiose Sed Ineptum"

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    The real explanation: What is a Macguffin?...

    The likely Cartoon reason Rodimus changed back and Optimus didn't is pretty much what SVK2000 said. Optimus was rebuilt BEFORE receiving the Matrix, so has no base form to change back to...
     
  10. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    The Matrix is a sci fi movie starring Keanu Reeves duh?

    You can't put a Keanu Reeves movie in your chest. That's just silly. :lol 
     
  11. Wheeljack30

    Wheeljack30 Banned

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    Then if Ultra Magnus had the Matrix for that little time why didn't he became a Prime? like Optimus Prime, Rodimus Prime, so Ultra Magnus should of became Ultra Magnimus Prime
     
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    Not everyone effected by the mastrix gets a name change.Scourge didnt become "Scourgeimus Prime" did he?
     
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    Cause it doesn't work on Decepticons
     
  14. sto_vo_kor_2000

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    Did you see the season 3 episode "the burden hardest to bear"?

    The matrix did INDEED give Scourge more power....so yes, that counts as working on a decepticon.

    And in the original G1 comics, the matrix worked for Thunderwing.
     
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    And did you see how he became? The Matrix made him look OLD
     
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    And???

    Whats your point??

    It still made him stronger, it still made him bigger......much like it did to Hotrod...o yeah...it made Hotrod look older too.
     
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    When I saw the thread title, I was thinking of the movie too :lol 
    But when I realised I already posted in this thread, it came to my mind that it is probably about the other matrix :D 


    Silly Autobots, honoring the one Autobot as their leader who places the The Matrix dvd or bluray in his chest! :lol 

    They must be big fans, don't tell them about Matrix2+3 :D 
     
  18. Wheeljack30

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    Was Alpha-Trion ever the leader of the Autobots?
     
  19. sto_vo_kor_2000

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    Didnt you see the season 3 episode "Forever is a long time coming"???

    He is the founder, father to the Autobots.

    It was he that created the rebellion that liberated Cybertron from the Quintisons.
     
  20. Wheeljack30

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    I totally forgot about that episode