The Lost Names

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  1. Auto Morph

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    Nowadays, we don't get Hot Rod like we used to, we get 'Rodimus'. We don't get Shrapnel and Bombshell, we get 'Sharpshot' and 'Hardshell'. Now we have 'Trailcutter' instead of Trailbreaker announced as an upcoming Generations legends figure.

    So does anyone know where the beloved original names of these Transformers have gone to? Who owns the copyrights now and what products are they used for.

    So the list I have off the top of my head is (feel free to add to this if you can think of more):

    Hot Rod
    Shrapnel
    Bombshell
    Trailbreaker
    Jazz (now Autobot/Speacial Ops Jazz)
    Tracks (now Turbo Tracks)
    Bluestreak
    Shockwave

    I suspect some of them cannot be copyrighted due to being too generic (Jazz, Tracks etc) but any info on the rest would be awesome.
     
  2. E. C. R. Former

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    Hasbro has regained Shockwave, in case you missed his Animated toy.

    But another one would be Ratchet, hence why he's always called "Autobot Ratchet". Oh, and Streetwise, Hot Spot, Octane, and Getaway (hence Streetstar, Hot Zone, Tankor, and Breakaway)
     
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    the matrix :( 
     
  4. Tigertrack

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    How about the three Omnibots? I haven't heard their names in a long time.
    Overdrive, Camshaft, and Downshift.
     
  5. Motor_Master

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    Downshift was used in Cybertron
    Camshaft was used for Alternators
     
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    Huh? They've been using that one just fine.

    They tried to use Overdrive in Alternators. But apparently Honda vetoed it for some unknown reason, so we got Windcharger instead.
     
  7. thenatureboywoo

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    Camshaft was released in the movie line as Autobot Camshaft.
     
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    I heard a while back that the Martin Lawrence movie 'Blue Streak' was the reason we dont get a toy of that name anymore. Dont know if that's true but I dont see a reason to doubt it.
    Later
     
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    I'm pretty sure they can't use Ratchet because of the Ratchet and Clank video game.

    As for Hot Rod, I'd always heard that Mattel owns it. Back in Armada, Hasbro had wanted to call Hot Shot Hot Rod but they couldn't, which is why they trademarked Leader-1 for Megatron's Mini-Con.
     
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    If I remember correctly a trade marked name is in a specific catagory. If KFC wants to sell a "Bluestreak" sandwhich and Hasbro wants to sell a toy called "Bluestreak", they wouldn't be in direct competition, thus both trade marks could be granted.
     
  11. Predakign2000

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    Leader 1 was obtained through Hasbro's purchase of Kenner. I remember an old interview about Armada where someone mentioned using the name and joked about return on investment. I could be wrong though.
     
  12. Eternalm

    Eternalm Hasbro owns my Childhood

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    Did they get Devastator back? Or was the toy called Constructicon or Decepticon Devastator?
     
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    Slag
    Bludgeon
    Banzaitron
     
  14. thenatureboywoo

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    Gears has become Autobot Gears
    Skidz to Autobot Skidz
    Wheelie to Autobot Wheelie
    Whirl to Autobot Whirl
    Banzaitron to Decepticon Banzaitron
    Bludgeon to Decepticon Bludgeon
    Brawl to Decepticon Brawl
    Devastator to Constructicon Devastator
     
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    Pity they don't just do that for every name they've lost. I'm assuming there's some awkward legal reason why they can't though.
     
  16. Auto Morph

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    :lol 

    Oh yeah! *facepalm*
     
  17. Eternalm

    Eternalm Hasbro owns my Childhood

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    I don't think they lost the rights to slag, but rather it's a Brittish slang term for "slut", that's why they didn't use it for Transformers Animated.
     
  18. mx-01 archon

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    Adding the prefix/suffix doesn't allow them to trademark a name otherwise in use. It just adds more legal weight, in the case of more "generic" names.

    Otherwise, there'd be nothing stopping Mattel from release "Pink Fairy-Princess Optimus Prime" and "Pixie-Sparkle Megatron".

    Of that list, Banzaitron kinda confuses me, though. Perhaps they felt like it needed the extra qualifier to "lock it in", as while the name isn't generic in and of itself, it does sound like something anybody could cook up in a couple of seconds.
     
  19. Auto Morph

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    I guess this is true, although nothing has changed since the '80s and they still used it then!

    :lolol 
     
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    i would love to see a "noble" like was in beast machines
     

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