The Great War: Ratchet's Past and the Great War Commander

Discussion in 'Transformers Animated Discussion' started by Feral Magnus, May 29, 2008.

  1. Feral Magnus

    Feral Magnus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Posts:
    64
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Likes:
    +0
    So in the Beginning of the Animated Season, we learn that Optimus Prime is viewing visual records from the Great War, a War that Ratchet participated in. Seeing as visuals from G1 were used and some flash backs of Ratchet during those days, does anyone think that the main commander in that war was someone other than Ultra Magnus.
    The Great War that is usually referenced to in transformers is the G1 series with the original Optimus Prime and Megatron. Also since this Megatron is the one and the same that fought in that war, there must be a Great Commander that fought in the war that was Megatron's Rival. I doubt that it was Ultra Magnus as Megatron would have given some insight against him in the show.

    What are your thoughts? Do you think there is a Possible Commander Optimus Prime (probably without the Prime as that is a rank now)?
     
  2. trebleshot

    trebleshot www.Toyark.com Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Posts:
    2,611
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    186
    Likes:
    +2
    It was Joe Convoy.
     
  3. Spiderus Prime

    Spiderus Prime TFW Spongebob since 2007

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2007
    Posts:
    11,099
    News Credits:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    237
    Location:
    Walker,La
    Likes:
    +66
    Facebook:
    Twitter:
    Instagram:
    YouTube:
    No it just a G1 reference for The GeeWeener to seen.
     
  4. Wiggyof09

    Wiggyof09 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2006
    Posts:
    878
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Likes:
    +0
    I don't think he's asking if G1 is connected to Animated. I think he's asking who we think the commander was during the great war in Animated since Magnus and Megatron don't seem to have much of a past.

    Interesting question actually. Wonder if we'll find out. Rodimus perhaps?
     
  5. Julliant

    Julliant This space for rent.

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2007
    Posts:
    1,353
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +0
    I think Animated Megatron is has been the one and only Decepticon leader. Ultra Magnus doesn't really seem as imposing as Megatron though, so perhaps Magnus took over when the Autobots were already winning so he had an easier job.
     
  6. knook

    knook Let the Virus Consume You

    Joined:
    May 13, 2006
    Posts:
    3,579
    News Credits:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    201
    Likes:
    +13
    Ebay:
    Magus can't deal with anything nowadays :( 
     
  7. Gir

    Gir I want to be a mongoose

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2002
    Posts:
    182
    Trophy Points:
    107
    Likes:
    +3
    Maybe it was Rodmius (Prime) for a change who was the commander during the great war. We havn't seen him in animiated yet.
     
  8. Particle_Beam

    Particle_Beam Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2008
    Posts:
    307
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Likes:
    +0
    Or perhaps, the two simply didn't face each another on the battlefield ever. That can happen.
     
  9. Brave Magnus

    Brave Magnus Hecho en Argentina

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2004
    Posts:
    9,310
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    227
    Likes:
    +24
    Hm..i'm ok with Ultra Magnus being the Autobot Supreme Commander but Rodimus being one during the Great War? Could be, i mean in Energon he kinda was a legendary hero or something and Animated is not exactly like G1. I was going to suggest him as Prime's rival but we already got Sentinel. Anyway, i'm kinda losing the topic here. XD
    Eh, good question. We barely know nothing from the old war, i would like to see any more info about it in upcoming seasons.
     
  10. Julliant

    Julliant This space for rent.

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2007
    Posts:
    1,353
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +0
    I would prefer that. Yea it's just a cartoon but a little less drama would be nice, it's not likely the leaders of two factions would face other in the battlefield involving large numbers.

    Yea he was flattered in Energon, that was enough. He could be a newlyu promoted Prime suffering from low self-esteem.
     
  11. netkid

    netkid Where's my Goddamn shoe!

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Posts:
    11,230
    News Credits:
    32
    Trophy Points:
    277
    Likes:
    +50
    My theory is that Optimus Prime himself was the supreme commander.

    Then during the great war, something absolutely horrible happened to him, causing him to forget his past.

    Maybe it was the same thing that made Arcee forget who she is.

    Without Prime, the Autobots were forced to rely on the spacebridge technology to win the war.

    Prime with a possible memory loss can explain his strange interest in the old war visual records and his curiosity to hear more of Ratchet's old war stories, even discuss them with the old timer.

    It always seems that Prime is searching for something within those old war records, and is trying to remember things long forgotten.

    Perhaps he is trying to find records of the old Optimus Prime, but cannot because the Elite guard had intentionally erased all that information from the war records.

    I also think the reason he's in with a group of repair-bots is because Ultra Magnus wants to keep him there, since he just feels Prime's true past and purpose should be left unknown for good because he can't stand losing him again.
     
  12. Julliant

    Julliant This space for rent.

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2007
    Posts:
    1,353
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +0

    I really like this idea. Very nice twist and original.
     
  13. Nachtsider

    Nachtsider Banned

    Joined:
    May 10, 2008
    Posts:
    12,544
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    201
    Likes:
    +3
    I say it was Vector Prime.
     
  14. netkid

    netkid Where's my Goddamn shoe!

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Posts:
    11,230
    News Credits:
    32
    Trophy Points:
    277
    Likes:
    +50
    Thanks.

    Dammit, maybe I should just become a writer for Transformers. I'm in friggin' Rhode Island for pete's sake!
     
  15. silentdarth

    silentdarth Josie's Daddy

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2004
    Posts:
    543
    Trophy Points:
    146
    Likes:
    +0
    Ebay:
    Wait a minute, when did they say Ani Megs was the same as G1 Megs?
     
  16. RedWolf

    RedWolf Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2004
    Posts:
    2,686
    Trophy Points:
    202
    Likes:
    +1
    Don't think so or Megatron would have recognized him right off the bat.

    Besides Prime is a rank not title for the matrix bearer.

    But it does have a valid point here that the Autobots would not have won that easily in the war.

    Ultra Magnus does not strike me as good strategist.

    Or else he would have seen that Sentinel does not have what it takes to have the rank of Prime.
     
  17. netkid

    netkid Where's my Goddamn shoe!

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Posts:
    11,230
    News Credits:
    32
    Trophy Points:
    277
    Likes:
    +50
    Maybe during the great war something horrible happened to Prime while he was fighting Megatron.

    Megatron got away and disappeared into obscurity, but Prime got hurt bad and lost his memory.

    Just an idea.
     
  18. nkelsch

    nkelsch Do you know this Icon? TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    May 6, 2003
    Posts:
    2,962
    Trophy Points:
    216
    Likes:
    +0
    The question is... What is the lifespan in animated for transformers? Are they as durable and ancient as G1 or are they less-durable and prolific.

    TFanimated doesn't 'feel' like cybertronians are a dead race unable of reproducing. And Magnus really didn't seem concerned about leaving the crew behind. And while the Allspark is 'important' I doubt they would abandon it to space if it was the sole source of life like Vector sigma or Movie alspark was.

    So they could all be really young bots opposed to ancient bots who like G1 Ultra Magnus "has no memory of his birth"
     
  19. Wiggyof09

    Wiggyof09 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2006
    Posts:
    878
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Likes:
    +0
    They do all seem young, but I think that's because it's a kid oriented show. Though Megatron does have a more ancient feel to him than Magnus. Magnus seems more like a peace time leader. Strong, but no real war experience.
     
  20. Feral Magnus

    Feral Magnus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Posts:
    64
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Likes:
    +0
    From Ratchet's Flashback, we do see Ultra Magnus giving him some orders, but he did not and still does not seem to be the Top Ranking official of the Autobots. Ultra Magnus seems more like a General in the Army following orders (possibly why he mentions having to discuss matters with Cybertron Command). My question is who was really in charge during the war and was Megatron's Main adversary?
     

Share This Page