The Graysons Pre robin Dick Grayson

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  1. Tekkaman Blade

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    Newsarama.com : Robin Before he was Robin

    From the CW the geniuses who had 8 seasons of Super man without Superman. So he'll be in his mid 30's and they'll end the show by killing his parents.

    This is a disaster waiting to happen. If you want to do a show about superheroes, Do a show about superheroes, a robin or a nightwing seres might be good. DJ Grayson sounds like crap and I haven't even seen it yet. If you want to do a super hero series with out costumes, do the question, do Jason Bird,or luke cage something along those lines, there are plenty of heros who don't have costumes, why do they keep having to ruin the ones that do. Also Robin isn't something that can work for long with out Batman or costume.
     
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    They've already done the whole "Batman without Batman" thing. Didn't work then, I see no reason why it would work now.
     
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    so it is the "Man-boy Wonder" then
     
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    ...how can he be the boy wonder if he's shaving before ever becoming Robin?

    Of all the ideas they could have created a new show around, this is easily one of the worst.
     
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    When did they do that?
     
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    Bird of Prey. The show was about Batman's daughter.
     
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    I bet they do something along the lines of Tim Drake being Nightwing and Dick Grayson being Robin...
     
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    Hmm. I wonder if this will make it past pilot. The Aquaman show didn't.
     
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    I honestly thought this was going to be a joke when I clicked on this topic, ugh.

    I think the logical way to follow Smallville would be to do a Justice series following Green Arrow and crew, but that would probably be too expensive.
     
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    ruin? I say improve almost all these classic super hero characters with costumes have a really lame one or in the case of multiple costumes really lame ones.

    If creators of a tv show want to do the character and they don't want to reinvent the costume, no costume is a perfectly acceptable alternative. Although Superman had atleast 2 costumes designs that were nice enough to be modified into something cool enough for tv a non tights "God Fall" outfit would look good but doesn't summon up any of the superman iconography

    a non tights version of Kon El's final "costume"(not the plain clothes with house of el symbol) would be an awesome choice for smallville or a superman movie

    non of the robin costumes are good enough for live action except maybe the titans cartoon costume with mods
     
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    But he won't be Robin, he'll never have met batman, the actor will be in his mid-20's playing a teenager. His parents won't be dead. There is no character motivation to fight crime. It's like taking superman getting rid of his superpowers and reasons for fighting and doing a show on Clark Kent investigative reporter. It's not why the character was popular and it's not why I read the comic. It's like Jon from Garfield with out Garfield. Or to put it in terms this board can understand, lets have a show about Sam "Spike" Whitwicky with no transformers and have him go around fighting bad guys with cool ninja skills and he solves crime when he's not working at a construction site. Might be interesting, but it's not something most transformer fans would want to see. There is a reason these characters have been around for over 50 years. They may have changes, but their basic motivations, origins, etc stay the same. The classics are classics for a reason. So the name dick isn't cool right now have a cool show with a character named dick and it will be cool. If the character from the original Preadtor was named Reginald instead of Dutch I think a lot of people would be naming their kids Reginald. Hey lets do a series about young George Washington, but George is such a lame name lets call him G.W. I know hell get messages from the future to win the way and screw history we will make him a young teenaged general, and he used to date the queen, yeah that would be cool. This is what comes to mind when I read about this series
     
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    So it will be better than with Batman? Because the Garfield without Garfield is pretty damn funny.
     
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    In short strips yes, but you couldn't do an entire series with John talking to himself. I also gave other examples.
     
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    I don't know. I've read a lot of them and they are always hilarious.
     
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    Okay let's ignore the John and garfield part of my post and take the rest of the information into context.
     
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    WHy can't they just call it: "The Adventures of Dick until he meets the Goddamned Batman".
     
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    I would totally watch that. Clark Kent, investigative reporter is awesome.
     
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    I give up, I just think the show is a bad idea.
     
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    Neither do I. No one gives a crap about Dick Grayson before he became Robin. Smallville is different. The idea of Clark having adventures before becoming superman has been around forever. Also, not doing a Bruce Wayne series like this just completely baffles me. There's no doubt in my mind that it would succeed.
     
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    Is The Nolan films why they "can't" make a "Gotham" series?
     

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